Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #3499

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Eine Normalisierung der Beziehungen läge im beiderseitigen Interesse.

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Trump ist böse.

Die ihn hassen, sind gut.

@ Nadine

Och, wie billig...

Zitat von Nadine im Beitrag #3502

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Trump ist böse.

Die ihn hassen, sind gut.

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Hab dort grad gekündigt, mein Hab und Gut dem Höcke-Fond geschenkt, um Donald bedingungslos zu folgen.

Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #3500

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3496

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Eine Amtsenthebung könnte den freien Fall der USA vielleicht bremsen; der Verbleib Trumps im Amt aber läßt den Absturz der USA auf Regionalmachtniveau als sicher erscheinen.

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Müssten wir dafür nicht erstmal "Regionalmacht" vollständig neu definieren?

Tatsächlich ist es doch lediglich so, dass der Wegfall des Weltmachtmonopols gerade etwas die Preise versaut. Da beginnt ein Anpassungsprozess und ein Präsident Trump hat nicht die Macht, die USA zu einer Regionalmacht zu degradieren.

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #3501

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #3499

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Eine Normalisierung der Beziehungen läge im beiderseitigen Interesse.

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Kommt darauf an. Trump möchte Nord Stream 2 verhindern und das liegt halt nicht in beiderseitigem Interesse.

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Ich hoffe dass die GOP noch recht lange zu Trumpsky haelt. Jeder Tag laenger wird dem Land letztlich gut tun.
Nach der Wende und beim Wiederaufbau.

SASC CHAIRMAN JOHN McCAIN ON TRUMP-PUTIN MEETING
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released the following statement today on President Trump’s meeting and press conference with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki:

“Today’s press conference in Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory. The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate. But it is clear that the summit in Helsinki was a tragic mistake.

“President Trump proved not only unable, but unwilling to stand up to Putin. He and Putin seemed to be speaking from the same script as the president made a conscious choice to defend a tyrant against the fair questions of a free press, and to grant Putin an uncontested platform to spew propaganda and lies to the world.

“It is tempting to describe the press conference as a pathetic rout – as an illustration of the perils of under-preparation and inexperience. But these were not the errant tweets of a novice politician. These were the deliberate choices of a president who seems determined to realize his delusions of a warm relationship with Putin’s regime without any regard for the true nature of his rule, his violent disregard for the sovereignty of his neighbors, his complicity in the slaughter of the Syrian people, his violation of international treaties, and his assault on democratic institutions throughout the world.

“Coming close on the heels of President Trump’s bombastic and erratic conduct towards our closest friends and allies in Brussels and Britain, today’s press conference marks a recent low point in the history of the American Presidency. That the president was attended in Helsinki by a team of competent and patriotic advisors makes his blunders and capitulations all the more painful and inexplicable.

“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant. Not only did President Trump fail to speak the truth about an adversary; but speaking for America to the world, our president failed to defend all that makes us who we are—a republic of free people dedicated to the cause of liberty at home and abroad. American presidents must be the champions of that cause if it is to succeed. Americans are waiting and hoping for President Trump to embrace that sacred responsibility. One can only hope they are not waiting totally in vain.”
https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/ind...EA-5AEDF0685EC5

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3509

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SASC CHAIRMAN JOHN McCAIN ON TRUMP-PUTIN MEETING
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released the following statement today on President Trump’s meeting and press conference with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki:

“Today’s press conference in Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory. The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate. But it is clear that the summit in Helsinki was a tragic mistake.

“President Trump proved not only unable, but unwilling to stand up to Putin. He and Putin seemed to be speaking from the same script as the president made a conscious choice to defend a tyrant against the fair questions of a free press, and to grant Putin an uncontested platform to spew propaganda and lies to the world.

“It is tempting to describe the press conference as a pathetic rout – as an illustration of the perils of under-preparation and inexperience. But these were not the errant tweets of a novice politician. These were the deliberate choices of a president who seems determined to realize his delusions of a warm relationship with Putin’s regime without any regard for the true nature of his rule, his violent disregard for the sovereignty of his neighbors, his complicity in the slaughter of the Syrian people, his violation of international treaties, and his assault on democratic institutions throughout the world.

“Coming close on the heels of President Trump’s bombastic and erratic conduct towards our closest friends and allies in Brussels and Britain, today’s press conference marks a recent low point in the history of the American Presidency. That the president was attended in Helsinki by a team of competent and patriotic advisors makes his blunders and capitulations all the more painful and inexplicable.

“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant. Not only did President Trump fail to speak the truth about an adversary; but speaking for America to the world, our president failed to defend all that makes us who we are—a republic of free people dedicated to the cause of liberty at home and abroad. American presidents must be the champions of that cause if it is to succeed. Americans are waiting and hoping for President Trump to embrace that sacred responsibility. One can only hope they are not waiting totally in vain.”
https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/ind...EA-5AEDF0685EC5

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3509

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“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant.5

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Ein Ausschnitt aus der US Presse von heute:

Trump’s Own Team: He ‘Looked Incredibly Weak’ Next to Putin
The president, former advisers say, is driven by a deep sense of insecurity about the election. And so he will never really confront his Russian counterpart.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-own...k-next-to-putin

Trump officials embarrassed by Putin show
President Trump sucking up to Vladamir Putin after the summit in Helsinki yesterday was such an unbelievable, indelible moment that many deflated White House officials didn’t even bother to defend or explain it.
https://www.axios.com/trump-white-house-...84edfa796d.html

The Republican Party Is Now the Blame America Party
Helsinki marks the end of the party of Ronald Reagan and Jeane Kirkpatrick. Conservatives who were celebrating Kavanaugh last week: How do you like Trump now?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-republ...e-america-party

Trump’s Helsinki Disgrace
The president sees good nations on both sides of the U.S.-Russia relationship.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/...tin-in-helsinki

Putin's poodle: Trump sells out U.S. intelligence agencies with the world watching
Before the entire world Monday, the self-styled tough-guy, America-First President revealed himself to be Russian President Vladimir Putin’s poodle.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-ed...0716-story.html

Putin’s Attack on the U.S. Is Our Pearl Harbor
Make no mistake: Hacking the 2016 election was an act of war. It’s time we responded accordingly.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/...l-harbor-219015

A New Servility
Donald Trump’s atrocious performance in Helsinki shows that nothing positive he might do is worth the downside.
George Will has described Donald Trump as a “Vesuvius of mendacities.” But as we have discovered in the last 24 hours, we have failed to grasp the full scope of his volcanic recklessness; his obsequiousness, his dishonesty, his willingness to insult his own country, all the while suggesting a moral equivalency between Vladimir Putin’s thugocracy and American democracy.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/charles-j...-of-a-president

At Summit With Russia, Trump Betrays His Country in Plain Sight
Trump told the world he trusts the denial of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin — the very man who did the deed! — over his own government’s intelligence. Trump can’t think of a reason why Putin would have interfered in the election.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...lain-sight.html

Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #3511

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3509

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“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant.5

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"Obama, during talks in Seoul, urged Moscow to give him “space” until after the November ballot, and Medvedev said he would relay the message to incoming Russian president Vladimir Putin."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgQaFlo_p8

Man beachte die zärtliche Handberührung.

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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #3510

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3509

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SASC CHAIRMAN JOHN McCAIN ON TRUMP-PUTIN MEETING
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, released the following statement today on President Trump’s meeting and press conference with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki:

“Today’s press conference in Helsinki was one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory. The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate. But it is clear that the summit in Helsinki was a tragic mistake.

“President Trump proved not only unable, but unwilling to stand up to Putin. He and Putin seemed to be speaking from the same script as the president made a conscious choice to defend a tyrant against the fair questions of a free press, and to grant Putin an uncontested platform to spew propaganda and lies to the world.

“It is tempting to describe the press conference as a pathetic rout – as an illustration of the perils of under-preparation and inexperience. But these were not the errant tweets of a novice politician. These were the deliberate choices of a president who seems determined to realize his delusions of a warm relationship with Putin’s regime without any regard for the true nature of his rule, his violent disregard for the sovereignty of his neighbors, his complicity in the slaughter of the Syrian people, his violation of international treaties, and his assault on democratic institutions throughout the world.

“Coming close on the heels of President Trump’s bombastic and erratic conduct towards our closest friends and allies in Brussels and Britain, today’s press conference marks a recent low point in the history of the American Presidency. That the president was attended in Helsinki by a team of competent and patriotic advisors makes his blunders and capitulations all the more painful and inexplicable.

“No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant. Not only did President Trump fail to speak the truth about an adversary; but speaking for America to the world, our president failed to defend all that makes us who we are—a republic of free people dedicated to the cause of liberty at home and abroad. American presidents must be the champions of that cause if it is to succeed. Americans are waiting and hoping for President Trump to embrace that sacred responsibility. One can only hope they are not waiting totally in vain.”
https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/ind...EA-5AEDF0685EC5

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Und ich dachte, der McCain liegt im Sterben, kann nicht mal für oder gegen den SCOTUS abstimmen.
Wer schreibt für ihn?

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #3497

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3495

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #3492

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Unfähigkeit wäre kein Grund für ein Impeachment. ....

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Hochverrat aber schon.

Aber seine noch wenige verbliebene Hardcore-Fans würden selbst das noch schönreden ...

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Welcher Hochverrat noch gleich?

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3515

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #3497

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3495

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #3492

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Unfähigkeit wäre kein Grund für ein Impeachment. ....

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Hochverrat aber schon.

Aber seine noch wenige verbliebene Hardcore-Fans würden selbst das noch schönreden ...

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Welcher Hochverrat noch gleich?

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Laut Ex-Direktor der CIA Bennan ist der Kuschelkurs Trumpskis sogar noch mehr als hochverrat.

#3490
" ... Der frühere Direktor des US-Geheimdienstes CIA, John Brennan, kritisierte auf Twitter, die Pressekonferenz Trumps mit Putin überschreite "die Grenze zum Hochverrat".Und weiter: "Er ist vollständig in der Tasche Putins ..."

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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #3516

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3515

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #3497

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3495

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #3492

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Unfähigkeit wäre kein Grund für ein Impeachment. ....

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Hochverrat aber schon.

Aber seine noch wenige verbliebene Hardcore-Fans würden selbst das noch schönreden ...

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Welcher Hochverrat noch gleich?

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Laut Ex-Direktor der CIA Bennan ist der Kuschelkurs Trumpskis sogar noch mehr als hochverrat.

#3490
" ... Der frühere Direktor des US-Geheimdienstes CIA, John Brennan, kritisierte auf Twitter, die Pressekonferenz Trumps mit Putin überschreite "die Grenze zum Hochverrat".Und weiter: "Er ist vollständig in der Tasche Putins ..."

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"Barack Obama’s CIA chief, John Brennan, told the Annual Legislative Conference of the Congressional Black Caucus, on 15 September 2016, in Washington DC, that when he had applied in 1980 to join the CIA, he admitted to them that in the 1976 Presidential election, when Jimmy Carter was running against Gerald Ford, Brennan had voted instead for the candidate of the US Communist Party"

Gute Empfehlung.

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Donald Trump Is Fulfilling All of Those Obama Conspiracy Theories
Ever since Donald Trump won the presidency, critics and commentators have played a regular game of What if Obama did that?, in which they contrast conservative outrage with the former president to the complacency toward the current one. “If Obama had fired the FBI director who was leading an investigation into his campaign, Republican Party leadership would have accused him of obstructing justice,” wrote Dean Obeidallah for CNN, in one typical example.

The comparison was particularly resonant on Monday, when Trump took to the podium at a press conference in Helsinki. For the better part of his presidency, conservative commentators and provocateurs dogged Barack Obama with accusations of disloyalty and subversion, questioning his commitment to American exceptionalism and accusing him of being a secret agent for foreign powers. But Obama never did anything remotely as damning as Trump’s inexplicable defense of Vladimir Putin on Monday, when the sitting president publicly sided with his Russian counterpart over the findings of American intelligence.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018...y-theories.html

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3517

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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #3516

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3515

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #3497

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3495

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #3492

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Unfähigkeit wäre kein Grund für ein Impeachment. ....

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Hochverrat aber schon.

Aber seine noch wenige verbliebene Hardcore-Fans würden selbst das noch schönreden ...

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Welcher Hochverrat noch gleich?

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Laut Ex-Direktor der CIA Bennan ist der Kuschelkurs Trumpskis sogar noch mehr als hochverrat.

#3490
" ... Der frühere Direktor des US-Geheimdienstes CIA, John Brennan, kritisierte auf Twitter, die Pressekonferenz Trumps mit Putin überschreite "die Grenze zum Hochverrat".Und weiter: "Er ist vollständig in der Tasche Putins ..."

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"Barack Obama’s CIA chief, John Brennan, told the Annual Legislative Conference of the Congressional Black Caucus, on 15 September 2016, in Washington DC, that when he had applied in 1980 to join the CIA, he admitted to them that in the 1976 Presidential election, when Jimmy Carter was running against Gerald Ford, Brennan had voted instead for the candidate of the US Communist Party"

Gute Empfehlung.

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Auch wieder einer der Standard Trumpetten Sprueche wie sie in absoluter Konformitatet von Trumpsky's Zombies trompeted werden. Als ob es eine heutige Bedeutung und Relevanz haette Als ob die was belegen oder fuer Trumpsky was widerlegen koennen. Reine Ablenkung in Panik.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3518

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But Obama never did anything remotely as damning as Trump’s

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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #3519

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3517

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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #3516

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3515

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #3497

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #3495

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #3492

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Unfähigkeit wäre kein Grund für ein Impeachment. ....

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Hochverrat aber schon.

Aber seine noch wenige verbliebene Hardcore-Fans würden selbst das noch schönreden ...

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Welcher Hochverrat noch gleich?

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Laut Ex-Direktor der CIA Bennan ist der Kuschelkurs Trumpskis sogar noch mehr als hochverrat.

#3490
" ... Der frühere Direktor des US-Geheimdienstes CIA, John Brennan, kritisierte auf Twitter, die Pressekonferenz Trumps mit Putin überschreite "die Grenze zum Hochverrat".Und weiter: "Er ist vollständig in der Tasche Putins ..."

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"Barack Obama’s CIA chief, John Brennan, told the Annual Legislative Conference of the Congressional Black Caucus, on 15 September 2016, in Washington DC, that when he had applied in 1980 to join the CIA, he admitted to them that in the 1976 Presidential election, when Jimmy Carter was running against Gerald Ford, Brennan had voted instead for the candidate of the US Communist Party"

Gute Empfehlung.

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Auch wieder einer der Standard Trumpetten Sprueche wie sie in absoluter Konformitatet von Trumpsky's Zombies trompeted werden. Als ob es eine heutige Bedeutung und Relevanz haette Als ob die was belegen oder fuer Trumpsky was widerlegen koennen. Reine Ablenkung in Panik.

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Ich weiß, Kretins haben es nicht so leicht mit dem Denken.
Dieser Brennan ist der Idiot, der CIA-Chef war, als die Russen gemogelt haben.

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Zitat von nahal im Beitrag #3520

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #3518

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But Obama never did anything remotely as damning as Trump’s

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgQaFlo_p8

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Der naechste Akt:
Russian woman charged with spying for Moscow by 'infiltrating' NRA
Maria Butina, 29, met US politicians and candidates to establish ‘back channels’ and secretly reported to Kremlin, DoJ alleges.

A Russian woman has been charged with spying for Moscow in the US by infiltrating the National Rifle Association (NRA) in an attempt to influence the Republican party and American politics.
Maria Butina, who purported to be a pro-gun activist, met American politicians and candidates to establish “back channels” and secretly reported back to the Kremlin through a high-level Russian official, according to the US justice department.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018...g-russia-us-doj

Das wohl auch im Zusammenhang mit den Millionen, die von der NRA zur Trump campaign geflossen sind -und die moeglicherweise ihren Ursprung in Moskau haben.

Maria Butina in Oval Office day after Comey fired
Here is a pic of Trump welcoming the Russians into the Oval Office the day after Trump fired Comey. He declared that he got rid of his Comey problem. In the pic released not by our American press but the Russian media because Trump blocked in his words “the Enemy of the People”, we see Maria Butina along side other Russian spies including next to her handler, Alexander Torshin.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/7/...ter-Comey-fired

The Kremlin and GOP Have a New Friend—and Boy, Does She Love Guns
Depending on who’s asking, Maria Butina is either a Russian central bank staffer, a gun rights advocate, or a connection between D.C. Republicans and Russia.

... Two of Butina’s friendships in particular have raised eyebrows. She started a business with Paul Erickson, a decades-long Republican Party activist. And she served as a special assistant to the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, Alexander Torshin, a former Russian senator belonging to Vladimir Putin’s political party with alleged ties to the Russian mob world. ...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-kremli...s-she-love-guns


The FBI has obtained wiretaps of a Putin ally tied to the NRA who met with Trump Jr. during the campaign
- Spanish police have turned over to the FBI wiretaps of conversations involving Alexand Torshin, a prominent Russian banker suspected of money laundering who met with President Donald Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., during the 2016 US presidential election.

- Torshin is closely associated with the National Rifle Association, and he and his longtime assistant -Maria Butina- attempted to use the organization's annual convention in 2016 to set up a backdoor meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

- Neither Trump nor his campaign associates attended the convention, but Torshin and Trump Jr. did attend a separate NRA dinner that same night.

When José Grinda, a Spanish prosecutor who spearheads investigations into organized crime, was asked if he was concerned about Torshin's interactions with Trump Jr. or other American political figures, Grinda replied: "Mr. Trump's son should be concerned."
http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-obtai...tm_term=desktop

Es lohnt sich diesen Artikel sorgfaeltig zu lesen.

Russia-NRA Arrest: This Is as Close as It Gets to Collusion
For all the indictments, arrests, and guilty pleas in the far-flung investigation into Russian influence, none has come close to alleging collusion. Until Maria Butina was nabbed.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-nra...ts-to-collusion