#2476

RE: Brexit

in Politik 05.06.2019 22:41
von Maga-neu | 35.189 Beiträge

Zitat von Nante im Beitrag #2462
Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2454
Nun, solche Peinlichkeiten hat es zumindest bei diesem Staatsbankett nicht gegeben. Wahrscheinlich hat Obama gedacht, die feierliche Musik diene zur Untermalung seiner feierlichen Worte. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRXGRFJdDY


Habe mir das zur Gänze angesehen. Sieht schon sehr traditionell aus. Erstaunlich finde ich, daß viele Staaten Europas zu Repräsentationszwecken auf Kleidung bzw. Uniformen des 17. bis 19. Jahrhunderts zurückgreifen. Griechenland, Rußland, Frankreich, Italien, GB...

Ebenso erstaunlich fand ich, daß sich beide Redner so stark am Tag der Landung in der Normandie orientiert haben. Sollten sie das als Bindeglied im 21. Jahrhundert in den Vordergrund rücken?

Ich war eher versucht, die Gedanken der Queen zu erraten, während sie ihre Rede hielt. Etwa so: "Hätten wir nach der Tea-Party richtig hingelangt und die Siedler energischer abgeknallt, müßte ich nicht heute neben einem Proleten stehen und Freundschaft heucheln..."



https://www.google.de/search?biw=1859&bi...=ntaiq4B6H16iWM:

https://www.google.de/search?q=guardia+q...0ZhuCZSM:&vet=1
Italien

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Frankreich

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UK

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Spanien

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Deutschland

Pomp and Circumstance sind wirklich kein deutsches Ding, Nante. :-)



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#2477

RE: Brexit

in Politik 05.06.2019 22:50
von Maga-neu | 35.189 Beiträge

"[The European Union] has led its institutions, actions, and human minds to such a level of dogmatization that any future remedial movements aimed at restoring freedom and reason will have conflicted with it to a higher or lesser degree, in the course of which the EU itself will increasingly sentence itself to play the role of the ancien regime. It is hard to imagine that while producing so much regulatory power, the EU would suddenly dismantle it and come to the conclusion that integrational abstinence would better serve peace and cooperation than the coercion of freedom. The emergence of such beliefs in the EU spheres would encourage a European perestroika - something that the European Union might not survive."
Ryszard Legutko


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#2478

RE: Brexit

in Politik 06.06.2019 00:06
von Maga-neu | 35.189 Beiträge
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#2479

RE: Brexit

in Politik 06.06.2019 15:00
von Willie (gelöscht)
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The truth and lies of Donald Trump and Boris Johnson
Throw away truth and mutual respect, and free societies come crashing down

... No one is any longer surprised by Donald Trump’s nativism. His presidency has carried into the mainstream an ugly political discourse once confined to the far-flung fringes of the extreme right. The sentiments above, however, are not Mr Trump’s. They belong to Britain’s Boris Johnson. There was a time when to have expressed or endorsed such views would have instantly disqualified a British politician from high office. Instead Mr Johnson is favourite to win the Conservative leadership race and succeed Theresa May as prime minister....

...Like Mr Trump, Mr Johnson has a lofty disdain for anything so trivial as facts. Anything they disagree with is “fake news”. Mr Johnson may yet be hauled before a court to explain the Brexiters’ claim during the 2016 referendum campaign that Britain sends £350m to Brussels every week. The figure was palpably false. I doubt he is bothered by the fuss. All that matters is that he gets the keys to Downing Street....

...Were it not for Mr Trump, Mr Johnson might have been held to account for the long and well-documented history of habitual lies. But Britain’s Tories are now going the way of America’s Republicans. In the choice of party leader good character and a moral code have been relegated in favour of the pinched English nationalism of hardline Brexiters.

..Mr Johnson is a proven charlatan but the opinion polls say he is the Tory leadership candidate most likely to beat Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn in a general election. Thus Tory MPs who privately admit that they absolutely loathe Mr Johnson — that they see in him a politician consumed by the consuming narcissism that drives Mr Trump — are now signing up to back him.

To my mind, this is how liberal democracy eventually dies. Throw away shared values, truth and a modicum of mutual respect and the architecture of a free, open society comes crashing down. There have always been snake-oil salesmen such as Messrs Trump and Johnson. The danger comes when the rest of us simply shrug our shoulders.
https://www.ft.com/content/5456a5d0-8785...ea-05ac2431f453


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#2480

RE: Brexit

in Politik 06.06.2019 15:17
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Donald Trump, the one person more of a political basket case than Britain
It is finally over, then, the state visit during which US President Donald Trump treated Britain like a Moscow hotel mattress. God, we deserved it. The event served most tellingly as a vicious satire on British public life, with every fevered reaction to it recalling Sybil Fawlty’s assessment of her husband Basil’s way with guests: “You never get it right, do you? You’re either crawling all over the them, licking their boots, or spitting poison at them like some Benzedrined puff adder.”

...Much as a toddler intimidated by a new present will play with the box instead, Trump dealt with the aspects of the visit that were beyond his skillset by returning to areas firmly within it. In Westminster Abbey, he was shown a white marble slab commemorating the Romantic poet Lord Byron, and took the opportunity to ask what stone the flooring was made from. Doubtless it will make a lovely splashback when they refit the executive bathroom at Mar-a-Lago....

Still, we shan’t miss people remarking archly that “Donald Trump is getting what he wanted out of it”. As are you, dear! In fact, we might go so far as to say that everyone from the Trumps to Corbyn to Farage to half the Tory leadership field “got what they wanted out of it”. The whole political class were on the grift just as much as Trump. The only people to not “get what they wanted out of it” – and really, it’s such a tiny constituency – were people who think that Britain’s mad nostalgia and political self-harm is at an advanced clinical stage, and that just because we’ve found the one person more of a basket case than us, doesn’t mean we’re winning.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/comm...se-than-britain


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#2481

RE: Brexit

in Politik 06.06.2019 18:36
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Trump compares post-Brexit Irish border to US-Mexico border wall during meeting with Varadkar
‘The thing we want to avoid, of course, is a border wall,’ taoiseach tells US president

Donald Trump has compared the thorny issue of the post-Brexit Irish border to his own efforts to build a border wall along the US border with Mexico.

The US president was speaking alongside the Republic of Ireland’s prime minister Leo Varadkar when he made a series of remarks about “your wall, your border”.

The Taoiseach interjected to explain the point of his country’s stance on the Brexit negotiations was to “avoid” any walls.

Speaking at Shannon Airport, Mr Trump said: “I think [Brexit] will all work out very, and also for you with your wall, your border. We have a border situation in the United States and you have one over here. But I hear it’s going work out very well … it’s going to work out very well here.”

Mr Varadkar immediately responded by saying: “The thing we want to avoid, of course, is a border wall.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...o-a8946081.html

Ein gutes Beispiel dafuer, wie wenig der Geisteskranke begreift.


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#2482

RE: Brexit

in Politik 06.06.2019 21:32
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D-Day veteran: ‘Brexit worries me. Breaking up European nations would be a crying shame’
Eric Chardin was just 19 when he landed in Normandy. Now at the age of 94 he hopes the peace that followed WW2 will continue

A D-Day veteran who is concerned about Brexit has said it would be a “crying shame” to break up the European Union.
Eric Chardin, who was in Portsmouth to mark the 75th anniversary of D-Day, said he hoped the peace that followed World War II continued.
“Brexit worries me in that respect,” said the 94-year-old from Cambridge.
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/d-day-vetera...zUzXrqqFXZsHcjU

Ein Pazifist, der weiss welcher Erfolg mit D-Day verbunden ist. Das ist der Preis, der es wert war.



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#2483

RE: Brexit

in Politik 07.06.2019 04:02
von Willie (gelöscht)
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UK economy 'close to stagnation' as Brexit weighs
There are growing worries for the UK and wider global economy as a series of pressures combine to dent demand.
https://news.sky.com/story/uk-economy-cl...weighs-11735121


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#2484

RE: Brexit

in Politik 07.06.2019 14:13
von Willie (gelöscht)
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https://www.facebook.com/roguepressbrief...45113785627741/

Caption:
He does know that the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK, right?

OK, stupid question. He doesn't know anything.


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#2485

RE: Brexit

in Politik 07.06.2019 20:32
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Matt Thomas #JC4PM‏@Trickyjabs
Nigel Farage, who has 0 MPs, delivering a letter to Theresa May, who has just resigned as PM,
to demand a seat at the EU negotiations, that ended 3 months ago,
might just win the award of most empty political gesture of the day.
3:50 AM - 7 Jun 2019


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#2486

RE: Brexit

in Politik 08.06.2019 02:48
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Dominic Raab's Brexit plan is not just reckless, it's plain dumb
Here is a man whose values and principles appear at odds with those of his fellow countrymen and women, but who will sacrifice anything on the altar of Brexit

That well-known constitutional expert Dominic Raab believes he has hit upon a way to get a calamitous no-deal Brexit though the Commons if and when he becomes prime minister.

His idea is to prorogue parliament, which is the formal term for the end of a parliamentary session and it is marked with a colourful ceremony in the House of Lords. It normally entails an announcement and speech on behalf of the Queen.

Once the Commons has been prorogued, all motions that have not been answered, or bills that have not obtained royal assent, will progress no further. A bill can, however, be reintroduced in the next session by an MP or continue in the next session if a carry-over motion has been passed.

I always feared that Brexit – which began as a constitutional crisis – would also end in one.

Raab’s refusal to rule out proroguing parliament to force Britain to leave without a deal on 31 October is clearly what his puppet masters in the European Research Group want him to do, but I doubt he has entirely got his head around what it would involve.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre...pSYWJToKbgzijas


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#2487

RE: Brexit

in Politik 08.06.2019 20:44
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Rise of the Brexit Party could make the UK’s EU departure less likely
Conservatives come third behind Labour and Brexit Party in Peterborough election

Ahead of the start of the Conservative leadership contest next week, the Peterborough byelection result has exposed in the starkest terms the predicament in which the party finds itself.

In a marginal seat that has passed between Britain’s two biggest parties for decades, the Tories were pushed into third place behind Labour and the Brexit Party.

Labour’s 31 per cent was the lowest vote share for a winning party in a byelection since 1945. But the Brexit Party’s almost 10,000 votes came mostly from the Conservatives, with Labour losing much less support to the Liberal Democrats and the Greens.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk...-etEu0.facebook


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#2488

RE: Brexit

in Politik 08.06.2019 21:22
von Willie (gelöscht)
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No Wonder Donald Trump Loves Brexit So Much
The U.S. wants to move the U.K. away from the EU’s set of trade rules and regulations toward the American one. Farage and Johnson are easy prey.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articl...UXyYHfSXRtBHAtw


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#2489

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 16:35
von Hans Bergman | 23.327 Beiträge

Hab gerade Jeans in England bestellt. Mein Beitrag zum Brexit. :-)



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#2490

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 16:47
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #2489
Hab gerade Jeans in England bestellt. Mein Beitrag zum Brexit. :-)

Es ist immer noch ein reines EU deal.


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#2491

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 17:54
von Maga-neu | 35.189 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2487
Rise of the Brexit Party could make the UK’s EU departure less likely
Conservatives come third behind Labour and Brexit Party in Peterborough election

Ahead of the start of the Conservative leadership contest next week, the Peterborough byelection result has exposed in the starkest terms the predicament in which the party finds itself.

In a marginal seat that has passed between Britain’s two biggest parties for decades, the Tories were pushed into third place behind Labour and the Brexit Party.

Labour’s 31 per cent was the lowest vote share for a winning party in a byelection since 1945. But the Brexit Party’s almost 10,000 votes came mostly from the Conservatives, with Labour losing much less support to the Liberal Democrats and the Greens.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk...-etEu0.facebook
Nein, wahrscheinlicher. Würde die Konservative Partei einen real Brexit in Aussicht stellen und durchführen, würde Farage wahrscheinlich darauf verzichten, bei der nächsten Wahl mit seiner Brexit-Party anzutreten. Die Stimmen der Brexiteers würden an die Konservativen (und in sehr geringem Maße an UKIP) gehen, während die Anti-Brexit-Stimmen sich unter Labour, LibDems und den Grünen aufteilen würden. Das setzt allerdings eine Lernfähigkeit unter den Tories voraus und die Bereitschaft, die Hinterlassenschaften von Ted Heath zu beerdigen.


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#2492

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 18:02
von Maga-neu | 35.189 Beiträge

Lustig: Die Briten bekamen Besuch von einem US-Präsidenten, der drei Millionen Illegale abschieben ließ (Deporter-In-Chief), der sich jeden Dienstag eine killing list vorlegen ließ und der UK nicht sonderlich mochte - wahrscheinlich wegen der Niederschlagung des Mau-Mau-Aufstands - und diesem brüsk beschied, es müsse sich im Fall eines Brexits ans Ende der Schlange einreihen. Dann bekamen sie Besuch von einem US-Präsidenten, der das Land schätzt, vor allem Schottland schätzt, der erklärte, er werde gerne Freihandelsvereinbarungen schließen - und welchen US-Präsidenten boykottieren der Speaker des Unterhauses, der Oppositionsführer und der Führer der LibDems? Gegen wen demonstrieren Zehntausend Londoner?


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#2493

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 19:19
von Hans Bergman | 23.327 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2490
Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #2489
Hab gerade Jeans in England bestellt. Mein Beitrag zum Brexit. :-)

Es ist immer noch ein reines EU deal.

Macht nichts, ist einfach nur ein reiner Sympathiekauf gewesen. :-)



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#2494

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 19:21
von Hans Bergman | 23.327 Beiträge

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2492
Lustig: Die Briten bekamen Besuch von einem US-Präsidenten, der drei Millionen Illegale abschieben ließ (Deporter-In-Chief), der sich jeden Dienstag eine killing list vorlegen ließ und der UK nicht sonderlich mochte - wahrscheinlich wegen der Niederschlagung des Mau-Mau-Aufstands - und diesem brüsk beschied, es müsse sich im Fall eines Brexits ans Ende der Schlange einreihen. Dann bekamen sie Besuch von einem US-Präsidenten, der das Land schätzt, vor allem Schottland schätzt, der erklärte, er werde gerne Freihandelsvereinbarungen schließen - und welchen US-Präsidenten boykottieren der Speaker des Unterhauses, der Oppositionsführer und der Führer der LibDems? Gegen wen demonstrieren Zehntausend Londoner?

Die Hassmaschinerie wirkt. Ich wusste nur nicht, dass auch alte Menschen so anfällig dafür sind.



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#2495

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 20:11
von Willie (gelöscht)
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Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #2494
Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2492
Lustig: Die Briten bekamen Besuch von einem US-Präsidenten, der drei Millionen Illegale abschieben ließ (Deporter-In-Chief), der sich jeden Dienstag eine killing list vorlegen ließ und der UK nicht sonderlich mochte - wahrscheinlich wegen der Niederschlagung des Mau-Mau-Aufstands - und diesem brüsk beschied, es müsse sich im Fall eines Brexits ans Ende der Schlange einreihen. Dann bekamen sie Besuch von einem US-Präsidenten, der das Land schätzt, vor allem Schottland schätzt, der erklärte, er werde gerne Freihandelsvereinbarungen schließen - und welchen US-Präsidenten boykottieren der Speaker des Unterhauses, der Oppositionsführer und der Führer der LibDems? Gegen wen demonstrieren Zehntausend Londoner?

Die Hassmaschinerie wirkt. Ich wusste nur nicht, dass auch alte Menschen so anfällig dafür sind.

Mir scheint ihr wisst beide recht wenig. Gemessen an den Fragen und die eigenen Anworten darauf. 😂


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#2496

RE: Brexit

in Politik 09.06.2019 20:21
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Hunt claims Merkel said EU willing to negotiate Brexit deal with new PM
British Conservative leadership hopeful Jeremy Hunt has said Angela Merkel told him the European Union "would be willing to negotiate" on the Brexit deal with a new prime minister.

The Foreign Secretary claimed German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Brussels "would look at any solutions" the UK puts forward to solve the Northern Irish border issue as he tried to emphasise his credentials as a deal-maker in the race to replace Theresa May.
https://www.rte.ie/news/uk/2019/0609/105...-leadership-uk/



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#2497

RE: Brexit

in Politik 10.06.2019 13:36
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Next Tory PM will not be able to suspend parliament – Bercow
Speaker says it is ‘blindingly obvious’ that no-deal Brexit cannot happen without vote

John Bercow, the Speaker of the House of Commons, has said it is “blindingly obvious” that the new Conservative prime minister will not be able to suspend parliament to push through a no-deal Brexit.
The Speaker said it would not be an option after outrage across the political spectrum when the leadership hopeful Dominic Raab suggested he might try to take that path.
“That is simply not going to happen. It is just so blindingly obvious that it almost doesn’t need to be stated, but apparently, it does and therefore I have done,” he told MPs.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...qTQXh55tmSnxzpc


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#2498

RE: Brexit

in Politik 10.06.2019 13:38
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Michael Gove: Tory leadership hopeful says he 'deeply regrets' taking cocaine 'on several occasions'
‘I look back and think, ‘I wish I hadn’t done that’,’ says environment secretary
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...NUiu9RS_TVt2V3Q


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#2499

RE: Brexit

in Politik 10.06.2019 22:46
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Johnson threatens to withhold 39 billion pound Brexit payment
Boris Johnson, the leading candidate to succeed Theresa May as Britain’s next prime minister, said he would withhold a previously agreed 39 billion pound Brexit payment until the European Union gives Britain better exit terms.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...0SD?rpc=401&;


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#2500

RE: Brexit

in Politik 11.06.2019 12:29
von Maga-neu | 35.189 Beiträge

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2499
Johnson threatens to withhold 39 billion pound Brexit payment
Boris Johnson, the leading candidate to succeed Theresa May as Britain’s next prime minister, said he would withhold a previously agreed 39 billion pound Brexit payment until the European Union gives Britain better exit terms.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...0SD?rpc=401&;
Hast du nicht eine Nachricht "vergessen"?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/pol...-out-%C2%A3350m

"High Court throws out £350m Brexit 'lie' case against Boris Johnson"



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