Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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"Meanwhile, the poll would make uneasy reading for International Development Secretary Rory Stewart who is forecast to win just 51 seats as Tory leader, with the Brexit Party cleaning up 252 seats, 74 short of a majority."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/...o-deal-leave-eu

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

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The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

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This makes no sense.

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No hope of avoiding tariffs in 'no deal' Brexit - EU's Malmstrom
Supporters of Brexit are “completely wrong” if they think recourse to an obscure trade rule will stop tariffs springing up overnight if Britain leaves the European Union without a deal, EU Trade Commissioner Cecilia Malmstrom said on Friday.

Some British politicians have suggested that in the event of a “no deal Brexit”, Article 24 of the World Trade Organization’s General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade can be invoked to keep Britain and the EU trading without tariffs.

“It is completely wrong,” Malmstrom told Reuters.
“They will have to trade with us and other countries, until there are trade agreements - and we hope that will be a trade agreement - on the ‘most favoured nation’ basis. And that will mean new tariffs.”

The “most favoured nation” basis is a misnomer because it means no special treatment.
Trade experts have repeatedly poured cold water on the idea that Article 24 could soften the economic blow of a “no deal” Brexit, but they say the claim keeps resurfacing. ...

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage wrote in February in the pro-Brexit Daily Telegraph that “if we apply to the WTO, and Article 24 of the GATT Treaty is used with both the consent of us and the EU, we would have a minimum of two years with no tariffs and quotas during which a trade deal could be concluded”.

On Monday, a former leader of Britain’s governing Conservative party, Iain Duncan Smith, explained in the same paper why he was backing Boris Johnson to succeed outgoing Prime Minister Theresa May.
“Boris... believes that we should offer a trade deal and, while that is being negotiated, we should seek an implementation agreement with the EU under which we will both go to the WTO and invoke Article 24, which allows us to continue tariff free trade until the final deal is agreed,” he wrote.

Trade lawyers are exasperated that the Article 24 idea keeps resurfacing, calling it a “misrepresentation” and “utter nonsense”, while May has said it is “perhaps not quite as simple as some may have understood it to be”.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...24M?rpc=401&;

Das sind so Illusionen unter denen die schwelgen. Wie Phantasierende.
Come Oct.31. and a "No-Deal Brexit", then the kiddies will have some nasty surprises coming for them. Then it is "wake up" -or more accurately: the realization of being "fucked up"- time.
And that big time.
And it doesn't take a genius to know it. No, not speculating on it, but to knowing it. "Knowing" as in "wissen". Reality and the facts -that's all that is needed.

Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

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This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

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This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

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Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

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Wake up, England: Boris Johnson’s ‘charm’ is just the arrogance of those born to rule
The Tory leadership contest shows we’ll keep running back to the posh boys, no matter how much they use and abuse us

I recognise this feeling and I hate it. A friend is going out with a guy who humiliates her, spends her money, has affairs and is abusive. Yet she feels lost and is somehow dependent and when he promises he will make it all OK somehow, that he will change, and the future will be wonderful, she decides to give it another whirl. Anyway, she says, “what else is there?”. Half-broken, she has lost the ability to even imagine a better life for herself.

It is no use, my anger on her behalf or my lament over her passivity. And yes, this woman is you. She is England (not Scotland, you don’t need to explain the difference to me). I see you, England, on social media, bewailing our powerlessness and aren’t the Tories awful? God knows I feel your pain. I am just really bored of the self-flagellation of victimhood.

We are getting a new prime minister, not one we have elected: a known liar and cheat, devoid of principles beyond self-advancement, a walking id, a moral void. Boris Johnson’s campaign launch this week allowed only six questions – and the answers were a burble about optimism, because his record is truly dreadful. As I watch him selling symbolism, not achievement, I wonder why we bow down to these visibly empty overlords. ....
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...dership-contest

Ein exzellenter Kommentar, der sich in Gaenze zu lesen lohnt.

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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[quote=Willie|p260931]Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

---

Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
[/quote]
This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

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Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

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Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

---

Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

---

This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

---

Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2562

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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[quote=Willie|p260931]Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

---

Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
[/quote]
This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

---

Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

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Politik ist eine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.

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Zuallererst muessen die Tories mal ihren neuen ungewaehlten Premier bestimmen.
Und danach sehen wir mal, was der oder die dann zu sagen hat. Denn alles was vorher gesagt wird, dient ja nur dem Zweck, die anderen Mitbewerber auszustechen. Ist also fuer den Muelleimer.

Wenn derjenige erst mal den Job hat und auf der Kommandobruecke steht -einsam- und auf Kurs und ins Wetter schaut, erst dann wird sich zeigen, was mit ihm Sache ist.
Und wer immer das sein mag, wir wissen schon heute praezise, welches Blatt er/sie haelt. Wir kennen die Palette seiner Optionen genau.
In Buessel kennen die die Palette auch.

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2564

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2562

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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[quote=Willie|p260931]Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

---

Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
[/quote]
This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

---

Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

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Politik ist eine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.

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Auch. Aber nicht nur.

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2566

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2564

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2562

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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[quote=Willie|p260931]Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

---

Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
[/quote]
This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

---

Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

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Politik ist eine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.

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Auch. Aber nicht nur.

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Aber immer mehr, Merkel ist das beste Beispiel.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2567

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2566

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2564

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2562

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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[quote=Willie|p260931]Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

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The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

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Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
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This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

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Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

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Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

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Politik ist eine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.

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Auch. Aber nicht nur.

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Aber immer mehr, Merkel ist das beste Beispiel.

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Sie hat ganz andere Optionen als vergleichweise die Tories im UK derzeit.
Dazu vierzehn Jahre im Job und immer noch beliebteste/r Politiker/in im Lande, das kommt nicht von nichts. Und vor allen Dingen nicht mit Attributen wie sie dem derzeitigen Frontrunner Boris Johnson zugeschrieben werden.
Langwaehrende Beliebtheit hat Gruende und Ursachen, die auf anderen Ebenen als vergleichsweise Charm und Charisma liegen. Die beiden tragen nur eine begrenzte Zeit und das auch relativ wenig.

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2568

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2567

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2566

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2564

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2562

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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[quote=Willie|p260931]Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

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The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

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Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
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This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

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Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

---

Politik ist eine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.

---

Auch. Aber nicht nur.

---

Aber immer mehr, Merkel ist das beste Beispiel.

---

Sie hat ganz andere Optionen als vergleichweise die Tories im UK derzeit.
Dazu vierzehn Jahre im Job und immer noch beliebteste/r Politiker/in im Lande, das kommt nicht von nichts. Und vor allen Dingen nicht mit Attributen wie sie dem derzeitigen Frontrunner Boris Johnson zugeschrieben werden.
Langwaehrende Beliebtheit hat Gruende und Ursachen, die auf anderen Ebenen als vergleichsweise Charm und Charisma liegen. Die beiden tragen nur eine begrenzte Zeit und das auch relativ wenig.

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Die Diskrepanz zwischen ihrer Beliebtheit und der von der ihr zu verantworteten Regierungspolitik ist schon auffällig, wo doch sonst Fische eher vom Kopf her stinken.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2563

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

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Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

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This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

---

Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

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Meaningless jokes are just that: meaningless. They might make some juvenile minds laugh but nothing more.
And as to renegotiating with the EU, there is about as much there as those got who hoped to get more beyond what they got. And some fools still believe to get even more now. From those they kicked in the shin. Yeah, right.
That's what delusions look like.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2567

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Dazu vierzehn Jahre im Job und immer noch beliebteste/r Politiker/in im Lande, das kommt nicht von nichts.

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2571

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2567

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Dazu vierzehn Jahre im Job und immer noch beliebteste/r Politiker/in im Lande, das kommt nicht von nichts.

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Stimmt, es muss wohl am grassierenden Untertanengeist liegen.

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2570

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2563

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2551

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Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

---

Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you

---

This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

---

Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

---

Meaningless jokes are just that: meaningless. They might make some juvenile minds laugh but nothing more.
And as to renegotiating with the EU, there is about as much there as those got who hoped to get more beyond what they got. And some fools still believe to get even more now. From those they kicked in the shin. Yeah, right.
That's what delusions look like.

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After all, Nikita Khrushchev was a progressive, too. Like Erich Honecker. :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KrvRPLX-jo

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2569

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2568

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2567

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2566

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2564

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2562

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2560

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2559

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2557

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2556

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2555

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2554

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2552

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[quote=Willie|p260931]Why the Conservatives deserve to face extinction if they make Boris Johnson prime minister
By installing such a charlatan in No 10, the Tories will forfeit any right to be taken seriously.

It will be the ultimate betrayal of their country. Having gravely weakened and diminished Britain through their blind pursuit of Brexit, Conservative MPs and party members now look likely to make Boris Johnson, a leading architect of our nation’s present misery, prime minister.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...s-johnson-prime

---

Haha, Rory Stewart with his big mouth (in every sense) reminds me of some sort of Monty Python or Fawlty Towers character. Or of an ugly Steve Buscemi. Anyway, he seems to be the last hope of every upright progressive. Guess next Tuesday even that hope might be destroyed, and the last hope may be Jeremy Hunt.

Regarding Boris: "But he is manifestly unfit for a post once occupied by such giants as Winston Churchill, David Lloyd George, Clement Atlee and Margaret Thatcher." Does the author know that what he and others write about Boris Johnson is exactly what many political observers thought about Churchill in the 1930s - charismatic, but unreliable, untrustworthy, lacking judgement and wisdom.

---

The conservatives face extinction with whoever they put up now. They are fucked any which way. Royally.
There is no way out of this rabbit hole they are in but backwards.

---

Mhhh, we shall see. History is full of wrong predictions, sometimes made by progressives whose ideology ended up in history's dustbin. :-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_will_bury_you
[/quote]
This makes no sense.

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Geschichte ist auch keine Naturwissenschaft.

---

Geschichte macht perfect sense. Immer. Denn Geschichte ist die akkurate Beschreibung dessen, was war.
Aber ueber vermeintlichen Vorhersagen von Progressiven schwurbeln und Chruschtschow zitieren ergibt null Sinn.

---

Null Sinn macht jene Aussage "But European leaders will not negotiate with a man they detest" - of course they will. Politik ist keine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.
Anyway, Johnson's comparison between niqabs and letter boxes is a little bit unfair - to the letter boxes. :-)

---

Politik ist eine Beliebtheitsveranstaltung.

---

Auch. Aber nicht nur.

---

Aber immer mehr, Merkel ist das beste Beispiel.

---

Sie hat ganz andere Optionen als vergleichweise die Tories im UK derzeit.
Dazu vierzehn Jahre im Job und immer noch beliebteste/r Politiker/in im Lande, das kommt nicht von nichts. Und vor allen Dingen nicht mit Attributen wie sie dem derzeitigen Frontrunner Boris Johnson zugeschrieben werden.
Langwaehrende Beliebtheit hat Gruende und Ursachen, die auf anderen Ebenen als vergleichsweise Charm und Charisma liegen. Die beiden tragen nur eine begrenzte Zeit und das auch relativ wenig.

---

Die Diskrepanz zwischen ihrer Beliebtheit und der von der ihr zu verantworteten Regierungspolitik ist schon auffällig, wo doch sonst Fische eher vom Kopf her stinken.

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Auch das hat Ursachen. Und wenn es nur die Perzeption des Betrachters ist.
Vielleicht sind die Bewerter ihrer Politik ja auch nicht ganz Bias frei. Kennte ich mir zummindest vorstellen. "Ein Auge zudrueck". 😉

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2572

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2571

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2567

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Dazu vierzehn Jahre im Job und immer noch beliebteste/r Politiker/in im Lande, das kommt nicht von nichts.

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Stimmt, es muss wohl am grassierenden Untertanengeist liegen.

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Mal wieder nur ein Wunschschlussfolgerung -ohne jegliche Basis- zwecks Veraechtlichmachung der Realiatet. Das Gebaren eines "sore Losers" -wie man hier sagt.

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