<<The US isn't interested in dialogue with Iran, France says>>

Paris (CNN)The United States is not interested in pursuing dialogue with Iran despite President Trump's insistence he is willing to sit down for talks, according to one of the European nations attempting to mediate between the two sides.

"French authorities -- among other European nations -- continue to search for a way to defuse growing tensions between the US and Iran. But the French say they see "no signal the US is interested in dialogue," a defense source in Paris told CNN.
Asked if France would be part of an anti-Iran coalition, which the Trump administration seems to be attempting to construct, the source said that while the French authorities regarded themselves as "good allies," they would not "automatically" follow Washington's line on Iran.
"We have our own goals... our own interests," the source added." [...]
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/26/polit...4&utm_term=link

Thomas Juneau hat John Hudson retweetet

"Putting aside the bizarre claim that Iran was violating the JCPOA before the deal existed (shows the IQ of those in charge), the dangerous thing here is the "no enrichment for Iran" demand - there is simply no way Iran will ever accept this."

John Hudson
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@John_Hudson
strange wording in this new White House statement on Iran. "There is little doubt that even before the deal’s existence, Iran was violating its terms." 🤔

Übersetzt aus Englisch von Microsoft:
Abgesehen von der bizarren Behauptung, dass der Iran das JCPOA verletzte, bevor es das Abkommen gab (zeigt den IQ der Verantwortlichen), ist das Gefährliche hier die Forderung "keine Bereicherung für den Iran" - es gibt einfach keine Möglichkeit, dass der Iran dies jemals akzeptieren wird.

Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #352

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Thomas Juneau hat John Hudson retweetet

"Putting aside the bizarre claim that Iran was violating the JCPOA before the deal existed (shows the IQ of those in charge), the dangerous thing here is the "no enrichment for Iran" demand - there is simply no way Iran will ever accept this."

John Hudson
Verifizierter Account

@John_Hudson
strange wording in this new White House statement on Iran. "There is little doubt that even before the deal’s existence, Iran was violating its terms." 🤔

Übersetzt aus Englisch von Microsoft:
Abgesehen von der bizarren Behauptung, dass der Iran das JCPOA verletzte, bevor es das Abkommen gab (zeigt den IQ der Verantwortlichen), ist das Gefährliche hier die Forderung "keine Bereicherung für den Iran" - es gibt einfach keine Möglichkeit, dass der Iran dies jemals akzeptieren wird.

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #353

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Zitat von Indo_HS im Beitrag #352

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Thomas Juneau hat John Hudson retweetet

"Putting aside the bizarre claim that Iran was violating the JCPOA before the deal existed (shows the IQ of those in charge), the dangerous thing here is the "no enrichment for Iran" demand - there is simply no way Iran will ever accept this."

John Hudson
Verifizierter Account

@John_Hudson
strange wording in this new White House statement on Iran. "There is little doubt that even before the deal’s existence, Iran was violating its terms." 🤔

Übersetzt aus Englisch von Microsoft:
Abgesehen von der bizarren Behauptung, dass der Iran das JCPOA verletzte, bevor es das Abkommen gab (zeigt den IQ der Verantwortlichen), ist das Gefährliche hier die Forderung "keine Bereicherung für den Iran" - es gibt einfach keine Möglichkeit, dass der Iran dies jemals akzeptieren wird.

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Natürlich nicht. Dem Iran kann ja das Kunststück gelingen, weniger gefährlich zu wirken, als die Falken Trump eintrichtern wollen, damit die dem nicht überzeugen können, sich aus seiner Komfortzone bewegen zu müssen und andererseits gefährlich genug bleiben, um Trump klar zu machen, dass Iran sich nicht über den Tisch drohen und dealen lässt.

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #353

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Irans Problem sitzt aktuell eher nicht im WH.

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https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/iran-atomabkommen-175.html

"Experte: "Relativ gemäßigter Schritt des Irans"
Nach dem einseitigen Ausstieg der USA aus dem Wiener Atomabkommen hatte sich die Führung in Teheran bis vor einem Monat weiter an den Vertrag gehalten, war aber von der US-Regierung dennoch mit harten Sanktionen belegt worden.
Iran-Experte Ali Vaez sagte dem US-Sender NPR, aus seiner Sicht handele es sich um einen relativ gemäßigten Schritt des Irans. Der Fähigkeit, Atomwaffen herzustellen, rücke man damit nicht viel näher. Für den Bau von Atombomben müsste Uran auf 90 Prozent angereichert werden. Andere Iran-Experten meinten, die Führung in Teheran wolle ihre Verhandlungsposition vor möglichen Gesprächen mit den USA verbessern und die Europäer zwingen, sich dem Druck aus Washington zu widersetzen."

"Die" Europäer? Den USA widersetzen?

Die widersetzten sich doch schon einander...

;)

AIPAC@AIPAC
We cannot allow the world's leading state sponsor of terror to enrich the uranium necessary to build a nuclear weapon. When previously faced with severe economic pressure, the Iranian regime negotiated limits on its nuclear program for financial relief.
2:23 PM - 8 Jul 2019

hwhankins@hwhankins
Why? They can't negotiate with the US because our country's word isn't worth anything anymore. We and other members of the Security Council negotiated and signed an agreement that the world's intelligence services said had stopped their nuclear program. With on-site inspections that said the same thing. Because of his jealousy of Obama Trump broke America's word and quit the agreement. He's all but gotten on his knees and begged them to restart their nuclear program. Any agreement has to be with the other members of the Security Council. I think the most likely thing to work would be for all their countries to agree they will completely ignore the sanctions the US imposed when Trump pulled us out of the original agreement.
3:47 PM - 8 Jul 2019

Ben Rhodes@brhodes
AIPAC coming out for the Iran Deal four years later (after their strategy has completely failed) is the most AIPAC thing ever: dishonest, disingenuous, destructive.
8:49 PM - 8 Jul 2019

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #356

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AIPAC@AIPAC
We cannot allow the world's leading state sponsor of terror to enrich the uranium necessary to build a nuclear weapon. When previously faced with severe economic pressure, the Iranian regime negotiated limits on its nuclear program for financial relief.
2:23 PM - 8 Jul …

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Hunde, die bellen, beißen nicht.

Fact check: Trump wrong on all 3 claims in tweet on Iran deal
President Donald Trump's Wednesday tweet on the Iran nuclear deal contained three inaccurate claims.

"Iran has long been secretly 'enriching,' in total violation of the terrible 150 Billion Dollar deal made by John Kerry and the Obama Administration," Trump tweeted. "Remember, that deal was to expire in a short number of years."
Facts First: All three parts of this tweet are wrong. International nuclear monitors and Trump's own intelligence officials say Iran complied until recently with the agreement's limits on its enrichment activities. Trump exaggerated the amount of money Iran gained access to because of the agreement. And he mischaracterized the deal by saying the whole thing would soon "expire."

Let's go through the claims one by one. ...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/politics/...ran-enrichment/

Die verlogenene Schweine werden nicht ruhen, bis sie ihren Krieg haben.

Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #360

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #359

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Fact check: Trump wrong on all 3 claims in tweet on Iran deal
President Donald Trump's Wednesday tweet on the Iran nuclear deal contained three inaccurate claims.

"Iran has long been secretly 'enriching,' in total violation of the terrible 150 Billion Dollar deal made by John Kerry and the Obama Administration," Trump tweeted. "Remember, that deal was to expire in a short number of years."
Facts First: All three parts of this tweet are wrong. International nuclear monitors and Trump's own intelligence officials say Iran complied until recently with the agreement's limits on its enrichment activities. Trump exaggerated the amount of money Iran gained access to because of the agreement. And he mischaracterized the deal by saying the whole thing would soon "expire."

Let's go through the claims one by one. ...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/11/politics/...ran-enrichment/

Die verlogenene Schweine werden nicht ruhen, bis sie ihren Krieg haben.

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Das haben die USA seit ihrer Gründung getan. Warum regen Sie sich jetzt plötzlich auf? Ach ja, die falsche Partei...

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #361

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Ach ja, gleich wieder die ueblichen relativierenden Verteidiger fuer den orangenen Fuehrer. :-)

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Zitat von ghassan im Beitrag #362

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #361

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Ach ja, gleich wieder die ueblichen relativierenden Verteidiger fuer den orangenen Fuehrer. :-)

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:)
Ich dachte Logik wäre ihr Ding.
Hans hat Ihnen nicht inhaltlich widersprochen sondern festgestellt, dass es Ihnen scheinbar weniger um die seit vielen Jahren gängige Außenpolitik geht, als um die Tatsache, dass der orangene Führer nun an der Spitze dieser Politik steht.
Nicht Hans relativiert, sondern Sie relativieren, frei nach dem Motto "Egal was Trump macht, es ist in jedem relativ schlechter, selbst wenn er Obamas Politik macht."

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #363

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Zitat von ghassan im Beitrag #362

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #361

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Ach ja, gleich wieder die ueblichen relativierenden Verteidiger fuer den orangenen Fuehrer. :-)

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:)
Ich dachte Logik wäre ihr Ding.
Hans hat Ihnen nicht inhaltlich widersprochen sondern festgestellt, dass es Ihnen scheinbar weniger um die seit vielen Jahren gängige Außenpolitik geht, als um die Tatsache, dass der orangene Führer nun an der Spitze dieser Politik steht.
Nicht Hans relativiert, sondern Sie relativieren, frei nach dem Motto "Egal was Trump macht, es ist in jedem relativ schlechter, selbst wenn er Obamas Politik macht."

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Ja richtig, Sie dachten, Logik sei Willies Ding. Ist vielleicht sogar so, er behauptet ja oft genug auch, es sei so.

Daraus folgt logisch nur: Logic is a bitch. Sie schert sich einfach nur einen Dreck um ihre Vereinnahmer.

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House votes to require congressional approval for military strike against Iran
The measure, which is unlikely to receive Senate approval, follows Trump's June statement that the U.S. had been “cocked and loaded” to strike Iranian targets.

The House on Friday voted for a measure that would block President Donald Trump from initiating military action against Iran without congressional approval.
Lawmakers adopted the amendment from Reps. Ro Khanna, D-Calif., and Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., in a 251-170 vote with more than two dozen Republicans in support. The measure was wrapped into the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act that the House passed Friday afternoon.

The House and the Senate will still have to reconcile their separate versions of the defense bill, and are likely to exclude the Iran amendment from the final package. Last month, a similar measure that would have restricted the president's ability to unilaterally launch military action on Iran failed in the Senate. The legislation received 50 votes in favor and 40 against, falling short of the 60-vote hurdle to advance to a final vote.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...t-iran-n1029311

New leak claims Trump scrapped Iran nuclear deal 'to spite Obama'
Donald Trump abandoned the Iran nuclear deal to spite Barack Obama, according to a leaked memo written by the UK's former ambassador in the US.

Sir Kim Darroch described the move as an act of "diplomatic vandalism", according to the Mail on Sunday.
The paper says the memo was written after the then Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson appealed to the US in 2018 to stick with the nuclear deal.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978484

Trump axed Iran deal to spite Obama: How the British ambassador called the President's actions 'diplomatic vandalism' fueled by 'personality reasons' - as revealed in more explosive cables that have sparked a free speech row while Iran tensions mount

Donald Trump abandoned the Iran nuclear deal as an act of ‘diplomatic vandalism’ to spite his predecessor Barack Obama, Britain’s Ambassador to Washington wrote in a bombshell memo to Downing Street.

Sir Kim Darroch’s claim – made after Boris Johnson made a doomed trip to the White House to change the President’s mind – is revealed in leaked cables and briefing notes which led to Sir Kim’s resignation last week.
Sir Kim suggested there were splits among the President’s closest advisers and said the White House lacked a ‘day-after’ strategy on what to do following withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, as the deal was called. ...

... Standing in front of Corinthian columns at the US Department of State, Boris Johnson vigorously pumped the hand of his American counterpart Mike Pompeo and gave a thumbs-up to reporters.
But as the Foreign Secretary turned on his heels after the photocall, he knew that his hastily arranged diplomatic mission to Washington was on the brink of failure.

It was May 7, 2018, and Mr Johnson had been hurriedly dispatched to make a last-ditch plea to President Donald Trump not to abandon a nuclear deal with Iran, regarded by many experts as critical to prevent the regime from building an atomic bomb.
During a frantic 26 hours of meetings, Mr Johnson met all the key ‘Trump Whisperers’ – those advisers with the ear of America’s unpredictable leader. It became clear, however, that despite the ‘special relationship’ between Britain and the US, Mr Johnson was not going to change the President’s mind. ...

But Mr Trump hated the pact, which he branded a ‘disaster’ and ‘the worst deal ever negotiated’ during his 2016 election campaign.
To the dismay of his future allies in Europe, he declared before the election that his ‘number one priority’ would be to ‘dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran’. It was perhaps, therefore, unsurprising that Mr Johnson was in an uncharacteristically sober mood as he settled into his eight-hour flight to Washington DC almost two years later on May 6, 2018.

Sir Kim had done a good job of organising what he would later describe in his diplomatic telegram as ‘a packed programme’ for the Foreign Secretary.
During his short visit, Mr Johnson would see Mr Trump’s National Security Adviser, John Bolton, and his Chief of Staff John Kelly, as well as Trump’s daughter Ivanka, and her husband Jared Kushner, who was heavily involved in the Middle East peace process.
By a stroke of luck, there would also be an opportunity to meet Mr Pompeo, Mr Trump’s newly appointed Secretary of State, whose planned trip to North Korea had been delayed.

But disappointingly, Mr Johnson would not be seeing the President himself. Everything had happened too fast and he would have to make do with meeting Vice President Mike Pence, even if this would make him the first UK Minister to secure face-time with Trump’s deputy.

In a canny move, however, Johnson appeared on Fox and Friends – Mr Trump’s favoured TV news show – and made an impassioned and direct appeal for the President to change course.
‘What if the Iranians do rush for a nuclear weapon?,’ he asked. ‘Are we seriously saying that we’re going to bomb those facilities? Is that really a realistic possibility or do we work with what we’ve got and push back on Iran together?’

...However, Sir Kim described how the British delegation was surprised by the inability of any of Mr Trump’s advisers to explain why he was so determined to junk the deal or their strategy after withdrawing from it.
‘None of the three could articulate why the President was determined to withdraw, beyond his campaign promises,’ he wrote. ‘And, even when you pressed, none had anything much to say about the day after, or a Plan B, beyond reimposition of US sanctions.’ ...

... Sir Kim could not hide his disappointment when at 1.38pm in Washington on May 8, he sent his cable.
‘I’m grateful to you for coming out on short notice and undertaking such a packed programme,’ he told Mr Johnson. ‘The outcome illustrated the paradox of this White House: you got exceptional access, seeing everyone short of the President; but on the substance, the Administration is set upon an act of diplomatic vandalism, seemingly for ideological and personality reasons – it was Obama’s deal.
‘Moreover, they can’t articulate any “day-after” strategy; and contacts with State Department this morning suggest no sort of plan for reaching out to partners and allies, whether in Europe or the region.’ ...

... Before signing off for the night he reassured London that British diplomats had pulled out all the stops. It was clear, however, that the special relationship had its limits.
‘We did everything we could across government to save the deal. Many said it would go on the first day of Trump’s time in office. There has been no stone unturned in our attempt to persuade and shape the Administration’s view,’ he sighed.

The same frustration was evident the following day when Mr Johnson made a statement to the House of Commons about the President’s decision.
‘The Government regret the decision of the United States Administration to withdraw from the deal and reimpose American sanctions on Iran,’ he told MPs.
‘We did our utmost to prevent this outcome: from the moment that President Trump’s Administration took office, we made the case for keeping the JCPOA at every level.’

... For Mr Johnson, however, the visit had not been completely in vain.
Two months later and despite his criticism of Mr Trump’s withdrawal from the nuclear deal, the President used a visit to the UK to hailed the Foreign Secretary as ‘a very talented guy’ who ‘would be a great Prime Minister’.
Now, with critics accusing him of throwing Sir Kim ‘under the bus’ to protect his leadership ambitions, Mr Johnson may have cause to regret receiving such a fulsome endorsement.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-vandalism.html

https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/iran-v...lungen-101.html

"Der iranische Präsident Hassan Rouhani hat sich bereit erklärt, mit den USA zu verhandeln - womöglich auch sofort. "Für Verhandlungen (mit den USA) sind wir immer bereit, auch diese Stunde, sogar jetzt gleich", sagte Rouhani. Laut seinem Webportal stellt er allerdings erneut Bedingungen: Vorher müssten die Amerikaner zur Vernunft kommen, den Druck beenden und die Sanktionen gegen den Iran aufheben.
Damit befeuert Rouhani Gerüchte, es könnte ein Treffen vorbereitet werden. Zwar ist es nicht das erste Mal, dass der Präsident die Aufhebung der Sanktionen zur Bedingung für Gespräche macht. Bemerkenswert ist jedoch der Zeitpunkt, an dem die Aussage kommt.
Zu etwa derselben Zeit nämlich traf der iranische Außenminister Mohammed Dschawad Sarif in New York ein. Nach Angaben der staatlichen Nachrichtenagentur IRNA wird er am Mittwoch vor dem Wirtschafts- und Sozialrat der UN eine Rede halten. In Teheran kursieren Gerüchte, der Außenminister wolle in New York am Rande der UN-Vollversammlung eventuell ein Treffen im September mit der amerikanischen Seite vorbereiten. Diese Spekulationen wurden nun durch Rouhanis Äußerungen befeuert."

Wenn es doch mal nicht bloß Gerüchte wären..., miteinander reden statt sich bekriegen... Kriegen das Trumpeltier und die Mullahs das hin? *grübel*

https://www.nzz.ch/international/der-ira...-usa-ld.1495912

Das ist doch schon mal ein Lichtblick:

"Im Juni hatte die amerikanische Regierung angekündigt, dass auch Sarif mit Sanktionen belegt werden solle. Dies hätte de facto bedeutet, dass er nicht mehr in die USA hätte einreisen dürfen. Die Amerikaner nahmen von dem Vorhaben aber vorerst Abstand – was als Zeichen gewertet werden könnte, dass sie die Tür für diplomatische Bemühungen nicht zuschlagen wollten."

Die Mullahs bewegen sich.
Der Druck scheint Wirkung zu zeigen.

Trump’s better deal with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
Trump has repeatedly urged Iran to negotiate, saying that Tehran’s nuclear ambitions are his chief concern, talking points that experts say echo the 2015 deal.

Donald Trump has long trashed the 2015 Iran nuclear agreement as “the worst deal ever,” a “disaster” that didn’t cover nearly enough of the Islamist-led country’s nefarious behavior.
In recent weeks, however, the president has indicated that the Barack Obama-era deal might not be so bad after all.

Trump has repeatedly urged Iran to engage in negotiations with him, while saying that Tehran’s nuclear ambitions are his chief concern — “A lot of progress has been made. And they'd like to talk,” Trump asserted Tuesday at the White House. His aides and allies, meanwhile, have recently suggested that Iran and other countries should follow the guidelines of a deal they themselves have shunned as worthless.

At times, analysts and former officials say, it sounds like Trump wants to strike a deal that essentially mirrors the agreement that his White House predecessor inked — even if he’d never be willing to admit it.

“Trump got rid of the Iran nuclear deal because it was Barack Obama’s agreement,” said Jarrett Blanc, a former State Department official who helped oversee the 2015 deal’s implementation. “If you were to present to Trump the same deal and call it Trump’s deal, he’d be thrilled.”
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/1...l-obama-1417801

And so would trumski's idiot following.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_2_UAbUYAAQ7Vg.jpg

https://www.merkur.de/politik/iran-krise...r-12836402.html

:-(

https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/iran-cia-101.html

"Die Spione hätten in sensiblen und entscheidenden Bereichen der Sparten Atomenergie, Infrastruktur, Wirtschaft, Militär und Cybertechnologie gearbeitet. Dort hätten sie geheime Informationen gesammelt. Bei allen 17 Verdächtigen handele es sich um Iraner. Sie seien rekrutiert worden, als sie ein Visum für die USA beantragten oder ein älteres Visum erneuern wollten.
Das iranische Fernsehen veröffentlichte Aufnahmen, die CIA-Agenten zeigen sollen, die mit den mutmaßlichen Spionen in Kontakt waren. So soll ein Iraner in den Vereinigten Arabischen Emiraten von der CIA rekrutiert worden sein. Zunächst äußerten sich weder die CIA noch die US-Regierung zu der Darstellung."

Alles glauben würde ich nicht, aber grundsätzlich ist den CIA-Truppen alles zuzutrauen...

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
The Report of Iran capturing CIA spies is totally false. Zero truth.
Just more lies and propaganda (like their shot down drone) put out by a Religious Regime that is Badly Failing and has no idea what to do.
Their Economy is dead, and will get much worse. Iran is a total mess!
6:08 AM - 22 Jul 2019