Brexit ist primär
entertainment.

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2625

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Rory Stewart's exit means the Tories have now given up on reality
Hard-Brexiter colleagues are now cheering the MP’s lost contest, but they are in for a shock

The problem he faced is the same one they will face in a few months. In essence, only Tory members can win you a leadership election, but only non-Tory members can then win you a general election. The two electorates are diametrically opposed when it comes to no-deal and you cannot placate them both.

Stewart enjoyed popular appeal and viscerally opposed no-deal, and as such could never have won the leadership contest. The next prime minister will experience the problem in reverse. By winning this leadership election, that person all but guarantees he loses the general election which shortly follows.

The only possible conclusion of Stewart’s defeat is that the Tories have finally given up on reality. They don’t want to hear the truth because they can’t afford to. Brexit has become the party’s lifeline: the Conservatives have absorbed and locked it into their DNA. The moment they unravel a tiny thread, as Stewart did, the whole edifice comes crashing down. As such there is only one thing they can do – tense themselves, focus and keep lying. For now it is a condition of survival. It won’t hold much longer.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...WmpQ2tc0UdbUKaE

Absolutely fascinating. The now unfolding disaster is totally predictable -but nevertheless fascinating.

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https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2019...johnson/seite-2
So, just another eulogy of Rory Stewart...

"So überzeugt Stewart moderate, junge Wähler, die sonst vielleicht die Liberalen oder die Grünen unterstützen würden. Er öffnet die Partei zur Mitte, eigentlich eine Stoßrichtung, auf die die Tories in der nächsten Wahl nicht verzichten können. Aber die Partei will davon nichts wissen."

It's funny, isn't it. For every "young, moderate voter who would vote for the LibDems or the Greens" they would lose ten voters to Farage's Brexit Party. And they would end up having the same disastrous results as our Christian Democrats.

So, Javid is out.

Boris Johnson could be prime minister in a month. Is Labour ready to take him on?

The nation watches this strange array of men deranged enough to aspire to run a country in an insoluble crisis of their own making. As a despairing and departing chancellor spells out today at Mansion House, they all lie through their teeth: there will be no new EU deal, they will be stopped from leaving with no deal, they will not keep their wild tax-cutting promises – and they know it. ...

We watch aghast at the grisly choice, outraged again at being excluded from electing our own prime minister. Our fate is left to a rabble of extreme rightwing revolutionary Tory members who will tear up everything in pursuit of an abstract ideological phantasm. They may look like deceptively normal Rotarians and golf-club members, pillars of their communities, but YouGov finds them eager to wreck the union: 63% glad to see Scotland go, 59% waving goodbye to Northern Ireland in order to see Brexit take place. But most astoundingly, nearly two-thirds of this erstwhile “natural party of government” are quite sanguine if their Brexit does “significant damage to the UK economy”. ...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...xit-back-remain

Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. As if they lived out a death wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJXyI-gwBNU

Hier erklärt Johnson das (allerdings bekannte) Geheimnis der politischen Kommunikation - einfach, in diesem Fall angelsächsische Wörter benutzen (Churchills toil, sweat, blood and tears).
Es ist das Gegenteil der hochgeschraubten Apparatschiksprache unserer Politdarsteller, die offensichtlich sich hauptsächlich an ihresgleichen wenden und die, wenn sie sich tatsächlich an die Bürger wenden, dies in einer infantilen Sprache tun, die auch nicht das ist, was Johnson meint. (Zum Beispiel das Gute-Kita-Gesetz; bald kommt bestimmt auch das Böse-Buben-Gesetz gegen rechte Propaganda im Netz.)
Im Fall der Grünen und anderer Parteien zeigt dies, wie man über die Wähler denkt...
https://www.europawahl-bw.de/eu-wahlprog...te_sprache.html

Da war es nur noch Hunt.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/arti...-Nachfolge.html

Schade, Gove - Johnson wäre interessanter gewesen. Brutus vs. Caesar. :-)

No-deal Brexit: Dutch PM Mark Rutte says Boris Johnson’s plans for a transition period without an agreement can’t happen
Mark Rutte said: 'I hate it. I hate Brexit from every angle. I hate a no-deal Brexit from every angle'

The Dutch Prime Minister has said Boris Johnson’s ideas about implementing a transition period after a no-deal Brexit are not possible.

The Tory leadership candidate has suggested Britain could continue to have the benefits of being a EU member state during the transition period, even in a hard Brexit scenario, and that the end of the transition could be delayed from December 2020 to December 2021.

But Mark Rutte appeared to pour cold water on Mr Johnson’s ideas, saying there could not be a transition period without a full Withdrawal Agreement.
“As Boris would say Brexit is Brexit. I would say a hard Brexit is a hard Brexit. I don’t see how you can sweeten that,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.
https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/no-deal-...eadership-race/

Boris Johnson accused of making contradictory Brexit promises to MPs
Eurosceptic backer warns that hardliners want frontrunner to rip up May’s deal

Boris Johnson has been accused of giving MPs contradictory promises on Brexit to win their votes, as one of his highly Eurosceptic backers warned that hardliners want to see him effectively tear up Theresa May’s deal with the EU.

The Conservative leadership frontrunner will face questions on his Brexit stance in a television grilling for the first time in the campaign on Tuesday, amid frustration among his rivals that he is getting away with pledging to be “all things to all MPs” on issues from Brexit to HS2 in one-on-one meetings with them.

His backers currently include most of parliament’s hardline Eurosceptics, as well as moderates including Matt Hancock, Robert Buckland and Damian Collins, raising questions about how he has won support across the spectrum.

The implication was that his preferred choice, Johnson, had told Eurosceptics that he would attempt a more thorough rewriting of the withdrawal agreement as well as meeting his strict deadline of leaving the EU by the end of October. Johnson is said to have told leading Eurosceptics in a private meeting that May’s deal was “dead”.

But at the same time, Johnson has publicly said there would only be a very small chance of a no-deal Brexit under his premiership and has been reinforcing those assurances in meetings with moderate Conservatives.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...brexit-promises

Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. One couldn't write a movie script like that with any chance of success. Nobody would believe it.

Brexit: Why Boris Johnson won’t last long as Prime Minister – Bill Jamieson
https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/co...UCUURbDJtyU_GKk

MPs plan six week recess despite looming Brexit deadline
A six week summer recess is planned for the House of Commons despite the looming Brexit deadline.

Commons Leader Mel Stride said the chamber is expected to rise for the summer once business is completed on July 25 and will not return until September 3.

A further recess could be scheduled in September for the party conferences, which would further reduce the sitting time in the Commons before Brexit deadline on October 31.

The winner of the Conservative leadership election will be announced on July 22 but there is no obligation for Theresa May to immediately resign.
She could delay her resignation to ensure there was no prospect of her successor being held to account in Parliament.

Stride, said: "Colleagues will also wish to know that subject to the progress of business the House will rise for the summer recess at the close of business on Thursday, July 25 and return on Tuesday, September 3."
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...dline-1-6117431

This is not a movie but reality. Fascinating.

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2637

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MPs plan six week recess despite looming Brexit deadline
A six week summer recess is planned for the House of Commons despite the looming Brexit deadline.

Commons Leader Mel Stride said the chamber is expected to rise for the summer once business is completed on July 25 and will not return until September 3.

A further recess could be scheduled in September for the party conferences, which would further reduce the sitting time in the Commons before Brexit deadline on October 31.

The winner of the Conservative leadership election will be announced on July 22 but there is no obligation for Theresa May to immediately resign.
She could delay her resignation to ensure there was no prospect of her successor being held to account in Parliament.

Stride, said: "Colleagues will also wish to know that subject to the progress of business the House will rise for the summer recess at the close of business on Thursday, July 25 and return on Tuesday, September 3."
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...dline-1-6117431

This is not a movie but reality. Fascinating.

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2638

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2637

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MPs plan six week recess despite looming Brexit deadline
A six week summer recess is planned for the House of Commons despite the looming Brexit deadline.

Commons Leader Mel Stride said the chamber is expected to rise for the summer once business is completed on July 25 and will not return until September 3.

A further recess could be scheduled in September for the party conferences, which would further reduce the sitting time in the Commons before Brexit deadline on October 31.

The winner of the Conservative leadership election will be announced on July 22 but there is no obligation for Theresa May to immediately resign.
She could delay her resignation to ensure there was no prospect of her successor being held to account in Parliament.

Stride, said: "Colleagues will also wish to know that subject to the progress of business the House will rise for the summer recess at the close of business on Thursday, July 25 and return on Tuesday, September 3."
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...dline-1-6117431

This is not a movie but reality. Fascinating.

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They simply can't stand democracy. They don't accept the result of the referendum, they will not accept the result of the Tory members' vote. It's utterly preposterous to believe that May who has still failed her country (despite her love for Britain) would do such a thing. The only hope those democracy hating globalists could possibly have is that Johnson's premiership wouldn't last long. And they will not hesitate to put a spanner in Johnson's - and of course he will be elected - works.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2639

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2638

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2637

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MPs plan six week recess despite looming Brexit deadline
A six week summer recess is planned for the House of Commons despite the looming Brexit deadline.

Commons Leader Mel Stride said the chamber is expected to rise for the summer once business is completed on July 25 and will not return until September 3.

A further recess could be scheduled in September for the party conferences, which would further reduce the sitting time in the Commons before Brexit deadline on October 31.

The winner of the Conservative leadership election will be announced on July 22 but there is no obligation for Theresa May to immediately resign.
She could delay her resignation to ensure there was no prospect of her successor being held to account in Parliament.

Stride, said: "Colleagues will also wish to know that subject to the progress of business the House will rise for the summer recess at the close of business on Thursday, July 25 and return on Tuesday, September 3."
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...dline-1-6117431

This is not a movie but reality. Fascinating.

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They simply can't stand democracy. They don't accept the result of the referendum, they will not accept the result of the Tory members' vote. It's utterly preposterous to believe that May who has still failed her country (despite her love for Britain) would do such a thing. The only hope those democracy hating globalists could possibly have is that Johnson's premiership wouldn't last long. And they will not hesitate to put a spanner in Johnson's - and of course he will be elected - works.

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As usual -you understand nothing. The above is simply the process and the plan for the summer. All by itself a disaster. And totally controlled by conservatives.
Johnson being Prime Minister is the least of the problems.

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2640

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2639

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2638

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2637

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MPs plan six week recess despite looming Brexit deadline
A six week summer recess is planned for the House of Commons despite the looming Brexit deadline.

Commons Leader Mel Stride said the chamber is expected to rise for the summer once business is completed on July 25 and will not return until September 3.

A further recess could be scheduled in September for the party conferences, which would further reduce the sitting time in the Commons before Brexit deadline on October 31.

The winner of the Conservative leadership election will be announced on July 22 but there is no obligation for Theresa May to immediately resign.
She could delay her resignation to ensure there was no prospect of her successor being held to account in Parliament.

Stride, said: "Colleagues will also wish to know that subject to the progress of business the House will rise for the summer recess at the close of business on Thursday, July 25 and return on Tuesday, September 3."
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...dline-1-6117431

This is not a movie but reality. Fascinating.

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They simply can't stand democracy. They don't accept the result of the referendum, they will not accept the result of the Tory members' vote. It's utterly preposterous to believe that May who has still failed her country (despite her love for Britain) would do such a thing. The only hope those democracy hating globalists could possibly have is that Johnson's premiership wouldn't last long. And they will not hesitate to put a spanner in Johnson's - and of course he will be elected - works.

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As usual -you understand nothing. The above is simply the process and the plan for the summer. All by itself a disaster. And totally controlled by conservatives.
Johnson being Prime Minister is the least of the problems.

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It's absurd to believe that May could delay her resignation. It would be suicide. The problem are not the conservatives, the problem are eurocrats who want to make Brexit a total failure. Because nothing worse could happen to them than a successful UK outside the European Union. It's the result of lib-dem ideology.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2641

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That's an insane statement. It's the Tories who control the British Parliament, nobody else. That's your favored lot of dumbfucks..

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2638

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #2637

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MPs plan six week recess despite looming Brexit deadline
A six week summer recess is planned for the House of Commons despite the looming Brexit deadline.

Commons Leader Mel Stride said the chamber is expected to rise for the summer once business is completed on July 25 and will not return until September 3.

A further recess could be scheduled in September for the party conferences, which would further reduce the sitting time in the Commons before Brexit deadline on October 31.

The winner of the Conservative leadership election will be announced on July 22 but there is no obligation for Theresa May to immediately resign.
She could delay her resignation to ensure there was no prospect of her successor being held to account in Parliament.

Stride, said: "Colleagues will also wish to know that subject to the progress of business the House will rise for the summer recess at the close of business on Thursday, July 25 and return on Tuesday, September 3."
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto...dline-1-6117431

This is not a movie but reality. Fascinating.

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They simply can't stand democracy. They don't accept the result of the referendum, they will not accept the result of the Tory members' vote. It's utterly preposterous to believe that May who has still failed her country (despite her love for Britain) would do such a thing. The only hope those democracy hating globalists could possibly have is that Johnson's premiership wouldn't last long. And they will not hesitate to put a spanner in Johnson's - and of course he will be elected - works.

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #2643

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Ich würde euch ja bitten, eure Beiträge in deutsch zu verfassen, was erleichtern würde, sie zu verfolgen. Ich verzichte allerdings darauf, weil ich sehe, dass es die 40. Wiederholung der immer gleichen Phrasen ist, die oft genug auch schon in deutsch zu lesen war.

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Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #2645

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #2643

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Ich würde euch ja bitten, eure Beiträge in deutsch zu verfassen, was erleichtern würde, sie zu verfolgen. Ich verzichte allerdings darauf, weil ich sehe, dass es die 40. Wiederholung der immer gleichen Phrasen ist, die oft genug auch schon in deutsch zu lesen war.

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Ich blättere da manchmal auch gleich weiter. Ein Fehler!
Man sollte in Übung bleiben. Und die Wiederholungen sind vermutlich extra dafür da. War ja damals in der Schule genau so: "Also, wir wiederholen...". :-)

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Warum mein Interesse am Brexit? Ich hatte immer ein Faible für UK, für britische Geschichte (meine Magisterarbeit behandelte die Außenpolitik Walpoles, Carterets, Newcastles und Pitts). Ich hatte eine gute Zeit in dem Land. Und ich denke, der Brexit ist der Test, ob es einem Land möglich ist, die EU wieder zu verlassen. Wenn es dem Land nicht möglich ist, das die besten Voraussetzungen dafür erfüllt, ist es keinem Land möglich. Wenn der Brexit ein Erfolg wird, weiß ich, welches Land als nächstes die EU verlassen wird - Italien. Das Land, immer noch trotz hoher Jugendarbeitslosigkeit und Staatsverschuldung Nettozahler, hat durch den Euro massive wirtschaftliche Schäden zu tragen gehabt.

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #2646

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Zitat von Hans Bergman im Beitrag #2645

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Zitat von Landegaard im Beitrag #2643

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Ich würde euch ja bitten, eure Beiträge in deutsch zu verfassen, was erleichtern würde, sie zu verfolgen. Ich verzichte allerdings darauf, weil ich sehe, dass es die 40. Wiederholung der immer gleichen Phrasen ist, die oft genug auch schon in deutsch zu lesen war.

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Ich blättere da manchmal auch gleich weiter. Ein Fehler!
Man sollte in Übung bleiben. Und die Wiederholungen sind vermutlich extra dafür da. War ja damals in der Schule genau so: "Also, wir wiederholen...". :-)

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Listen and repeat: "Brexit means Brexit." :-)

Mir geht es ja ähnlich im Klimastrang, da ich mich 1. nicht für Klimathematiken erwärmen (Achtung, Sprachwitz) kann und 2. keine Ahnung davon habe.

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #2649

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"Keine Ahnung aber eine Meinung" ist immer gut.

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