Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #950

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #949

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Zitat von Nante im Beitrag #948

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Der dialektische und historische Materialismus definiert die Bewegungsgesetze der Natur und überträgt diese auch auf die gesellschaftliche Entwicklung.

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Eben dies ist das Problem. So, jetzt ciao. Ich bin in der nächsten Woche in der "città eterna", in der "Ewigen Stadt".

Soll ich Papa Francesco Grüße von jemandem bestellen?

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Yep, von mir. Frag ihn mal, ob er mich mal anrufen koennte -oder ich ihn. Ich wuerde mich gerne mal mit ihm unterhalten.

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Francis Appoints Like-Minded Cardinals from Periphery
Pope Francis is putting a personal imprint on the group of men who will choose his successor, tapping like-minded cardinals from some of the world's smallest, most remote and poverty-wracked nations to help him run the Catholic Church.

Old friends, Vatican bureaucrats and sentimental favorites are also getting red hats Saturday when Francis presides over his first cardinal-making ceremony to bring 19 new "princes" of the church into the College of Cardinals. Two hail from Africa, two from Asia and six from Francis' native Latin America, which is home to nearly half the world's Catholics but is grossly underrepresented in the church's hierarchy.

There's Cardinal-designate Chibly Langlois, who isn't even an archbishop but rather the 55-year-old bishop of Les Cayes and now Haiti's first-ever cardinal. Another Caribbean cardinal, Kelvin Edward Felix, was for a quarter-century the archbishop of tiny Castries, St. Lucia, population 163,000.

The archbishop of Managua, Nicaragua, Leopoldo Jose Brenes Solorzano, is an old friend who worked alongside the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio in preparing the seminal document of the pope's vision of a missionary church — the so-called Aparecida Document produced by the 2007 summit of Latin American bishops. Nicaragua's second cardinal ever, Brenes has made an impression at the Vatican with his unruly gray curls and the blue jeans he donned for the flight to Rome.
Cardinal Andrew Yeom Soo-jung, archbishop of Seoul, South Korea, has serious Catholic chops: His ancestors were among the lay people who brought Christianity to the Korean peninsula in the 19th century, and his great-great grandfather and his wife were executed as part of the Joseon Dynasty's persecution of Christians, Asian Catholic news agency UCANews reported. Of the six children in his immediate family, three became priests.

Though he hails from the other side of the planet, Burkina Faso Cardinal Philippe Nakellentuba Ouedraogo sounded an awful lot like Francis in his 2013 Christmas homily. Nakellentuba denounced the "inequality, injustice, poverty and misery" of today's society where employers exploit their workers and the powerful few have most of the money while the poor masses suffer.

Francis is "emphasizing his preference for what he calls the periphery, or the margins," noted Robert Mickens, Vatican correspondent for the British Catholic magazine The Tablet.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/franci...-from-periphery

Francis Appoints Like-Minded Cardinals from Periphery
Pope Francis is putting a personal imprint on the group of men who will choose his successor, tapping like-minded cardinals from some of the world's smallest, most remote and poverty-wracked nations to help him run the Catholic Church.

Old friends, Vatican bureaucrats and sentimental favorites are also getting red hats Saturday when Francis presides over his first cardinal-making ceremony to bring 19 new "princes" of the church into the College of Cardinals. Two hail from Africa, two from Asia and six from Francis' native Latin America, which is home to nearly half the world's Catholics but is grossly underrepresented in the church's hierarchy.

There's Cardinal-designate Chibly Langlois, who isn't even an archbishop but rather the 55-year-old bishop of Les Cayes and now Haiti's first-ever cardinal. Another Caribbean cardinal, Kelvin Edward Felix, was for a quarter-century the archbishop of tiny Castries, St. Lucia, population 163,000.

The archbishop of Managua, Nicaragua, Leopoldo Jose Brenes Solorzano, is an old friend who worked alongside the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio in preparing the seminal document of the pope's vision of a missionary church — the so-called Aparecida Document produced by the 2007 summit of Latin American bishops. Nicaragua's second cardinal ever, Brenes has made an impression at the Vatican with his unruly gray curls and the blue jeans he donned for the flight to Rome.
Cardinal Andrew Yeom Soo-jung, archbishop of Seoul, South Korea, has serious Catholic chops: His ancestors were among the lay people who brought Christianity to the Korean peninsula in the 19th century, and his great-great grandfather and his wife were executed as part of the Joseon Dynasty's persecution of Christians, Asian Catholic news agency UCANews reported. Of the six children in his immediate family, three became priests.

Though he hails from the other side of the planet, Burkina Faso Cardinal Philippe Nakellentuba Ouedraogo sounded an awful lot like Francis in his 2013 Christmas homily. Nakellentuba denounced the "inequality, injustice, poverty and misery" of today's society where employers exploit their workers and the powerful few have most of the money while the poor masses suffer.

Francis is "emphasizing his preference for what he calls the periphery, or the margins," noted Robert Mickens, Vatican correspondent for the British Catholic magazine The Tablet.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/franci...-from-periphery

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #953

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Francis Appoints Like-Minded Cardinals from Periphery
Pope Francis is putting a personal imprint on the group of men who will choose his successor, tapping like-minded cardinals from some of the world's smallest, most remote and poverty-wracked nations to help him run the Catholic Church.

Old friends, Vatican bureaucrats and sentimental favorites are also getting red hats Saturday when Francis presides over his first cardinal-making ceremony to bring 19 new "princes" of the church into the College of Cardinals. Two hail from Africa, two from Asia and six from Francis' native Latin America, which is home to nearly half the world's Catholics but is grossly underrepresented in the church's hierarchy.

There's Cardinal-designate Chibly Langlois, who isn't even an archbishop but rather the 55-year-old bishop of Les Cayes and now Haiti's first-ever cardinal. Another Caribbean cardinal, Kelvin Edward Felix, was for a quarter-century the archbishop of tiny Castries, St. Lucia, population 163,000.

The archbishop of Managua, Nicaragua, Leopoldo Jose Brenes Solorzano, is an old friend who worked alongside the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio in preparing the seminal document of the pope's vision of a missionary church — the so-called Aparecida Document produced by the 2007 summit of Latin American bishops. Nicaragua's second cardinal ever, Brenes has made an impression at the Vatican with his unruly gray curls and the blue jeans he donned for the flight to Rome.
Cardinal Andrew Yeom Soo-jung, archbishop of Seoul, South Korea, has serious Catholic chops: His ancestors were among the lay people who brought Christianity to the Korean peninsula in the 19th century, and his great-great grandfather and his wife were executed as part of the Joseon Dynasty's persecution of Christians, Asian Catholic news agency UCANews reported. Of the six children in his immediate family, three became priests.

Though he hails from the other side of the planet, Burkina Faso Cardinal Philippe Nakellentuba Ouedraogo sounded an awful lot like Francis in his 2013 Christmas homily. Nakellentuba denounced the "inequality, injustice, poverty and misery" of today's society where employers exploit their workers and the powerful few have most of the money while the poor masses suffer.

Francis is "emphasizing his preference for what he calls the periphery, or the margins," noted Robert Mickens, Vatican correspondent for the British Catholic magazine The Tablet.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/franci...-from-periphery

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Wedding bells in clerk's office after ruling on same sex marriage
People began lining up for marriage licenses within an hour of a judge's ruling Friday that same sex couples in Cook County do not have to wait until June to marry.
One couple even got married by Clerk David Orr, who chose not to fight a lawsuit that sought to scrap the June effective date of Illinois' same sex marriage law.

For now, the ruling by U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman applies only to Cook County. In her decision, Coleman wrote that "there is no reason to delay further when no opposition has been presented to this Court and committed gay and lesbian couples have already suffered from the denial of their fundamental right to marry."
By Friday afternoon, Theresa Volpe and Mercedes Santos were getting married in Orr's office.

Flanked by their 9-year-old daughter and 5-year-old son and holding rose bouquets from Orr, the couple reflected on the day for reporters. "Marriage for us is about family," said Santos, 48. "There is no right or wrong as far as who gets married."
Charlie Gurion, 25, heard about the ruling on Facebook and was at the courthouse by 12:30 p.m. with his fiancé David Wilk, 30, who left work to get their license.
"My heart is beating so fast," Wilk said. "This is amazing."

Orr said he will keep the downtown Bureau of Vital Records, in the lower level of the Daley Center, open an extra two hours tonight – until 7 p.m. – to accommodate any couples who want to get a license after work.
Only the downtown office will issue same-sex marriage licenses on Friday. All offices will begin issuing licenses on Monday, he said.
Orr said the office looks forward to long lines but he was not sure how many to expect. Extra staff will be brought in to cover the longer hours today.

Marriage licenses take effect the next calender day and are valid for 60 days. “Don’t rush to get your license if you have a summer wedding planned because you don’t want the license to expire before your big day,” Orr cautioned.

The $60 license fee will be waived for any couple who already has an Illinois civil union license. Couples who wish to convert their prior civil union date to a marriage will have to wait until June 1 because it was not addressed in Coleman’s order, Orr said.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-...rriage-licenses

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #955

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Wedding bells in clerk's office after ruling on same sex marriage
People began lining up for marriage licenses within an hour of a judge's ruling Friday that same sex couples in Cook County do not have to wait until June to marry.
One couple even got married by Clerk David Orr, who chose not to fight a lawsuit that sought to scrap the June effective date of Illinois' same sex marriage law.

For now, the ruling by U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman applies only to Cook County. In her decision, Coleman wrote that "there is no reason to delay further when no opposition has been presented to this Court and committed gay and lesbian couples have already suffered from the denial of their fundamental right to marry."
By Friday afternoon, Theresa Volpe and Mercedes Santos were getting married in Orr's office.

Flanked by their 9-year-old daughter and 5-year-old son and holding rose bouquets from Orr, the couple reflected on the day for reporters. "Marriage for us is about family," said Santos, 48. "There is no right or wrong as far as who gets married."
Charlie Gurion, 25, heard about the ruling on Facebook and was at the courthouse by 12:30 p.m. with his fiancé David Wilk, 30, who left work to get their license.
"My heart is beating so fast," Wilk said. "This is amazing."

Orr said he will keep the downtown Bureau of Vital Records, in the lower level of the Daley Center, open an extra two hours tonight – until 7 p.m. – to accommodate any couples who want to get a license after work.
Only the downtown office will issue same-sex marriage licenses on Friday. All offices will begin issuing licenses on Monday, he said.
Orr said the office looks forward to long lines but he was not sure how many to expect. Extra staff will be brought in to cover the longer hours today.

Marriage licenses take effect the next calender day and are valid for 60 days. “Don’t rush to get your license if you have a summer wedding planned because you don’t want the license to expire before your big day,” Orr cautioned.

The $60 license fee will be waived for any couple who already has an Illinois civil union license. Couples who wish to convert their prior civil union date to a marriage will have to wait until June 1 because it was not addressed in Coleman’s order, Orr said.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-...rriage-licenses

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On Gay Priests, Pope Francis Asks, ‘Who Am I to Judge?’
For generations, homosexuality has largely been a taboo topic for the Vatican, ignored altogether or treated as “an intrinsic moral evil,” in the words of the previous pope.

In that context, brief remarks by Pope Francis suggesting that he would not judge priests for their sexual orientation, made aboard the papal airplane on the way back from his first foreign trip, to Brazil, resonated through the church. Never veering from church doctrine opposing homosexuality, Francis did strike a more compassionate tone than that of his predecessors, some of whom had largely avoided even saying the more colloquial “gay.”

“If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” Francis told reporters, speaking in Italian but using the English word “gay.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/world/...?pagewanted=all

Wretched are those who are vindictive and spiteful.
Pope Francis

Since many of you do not belong to the Catholic Church and others are non-believers, from the bottom of my heart I give this silent blessing to each and every one of you, respecting the conscience of each one of you but knowing that each one of you is a child of God.
Pope Francis

Pope Francis Joined By Pope Benedict At Consistory To Elevate Cardinals In Historic Ceremony
Retired Pope Benedict XVI joined Pope Francis at a ceremony Saturday creating the cardinals who will elect their successor in an unprecedented blending of papacies past, present and future.
Benedict discreetly entered St. Peter's Basilica from a side entrance surrounded by a small entourage and was greeted with applause and tears from the stunned people in the pews. He smiled, waved and seemed genuinely happy to be there, taking his seat in the front row, off to the side, alongside the red-draped cardinals.

It was the first time Benedict and Francis have appeared together at a public liturgical ceremony since Benedict retired a year ago and became the first pope to step down in more than 600 years.
The significance of his presence was multifold, signaling both continuity and even a sign of Benedict's approval of the 19 men Francis had chosen to join the College of Cardinals, the elite group of churchmen whose primary job is to elect a pope.

Francis' choices largely reflected his view that the church must minister to the peripheries and not be a closed institution of rules but rather a place of welcome and mercy. He named cardinals from some of the world's poorest countries, Haiti, Burkina Faso and Ivory Coast among them, tapping many pastors like him.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22..._n_4837101.html

Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #949

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Soll ich Papa Francesco Grüße von jemandem bestellen?

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Founder of Liberation Theology Hailed at Vatican
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, has received a hero's welcome at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis.

The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vatican's orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis' top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger spent much of his tenure at Mueller's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith battling liberation theology, arguing that it misinterpreted Jesus' preference for the poor into a Marxist call for armed rebellion.

Guttierez insists true liberation theology was always perfectly in line with the church's social teaching about the poor that Francis widely embraces.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/founde...iled-at-vatican

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #962

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Founder of Liberation Theology Hailed at Vatican
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, has received a hero's welcome at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis.

The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vatican's orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis' top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger spent much of his tenure at Mueller's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith battling liberation theology, arguing that it misinterpreted Jesus' preference for the poor into a Marxist call for armed rebellion.

Guttierez insists true liberation theology was always perfectly in line with the church's social teaching about the poor that Francis widely embraces.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/founde...iled-at-vatican

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #963

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #962

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Founder of Liberation Theology Hailed at Vatican
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, has received a hero's welcome at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis.

The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vatican's orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis' top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger spent much of his tenure at Mueller's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith battling liberation theology, arguing that it misinterpreted Jesus' preference for the poor into a Marxist call for armed rebellion.

Guttierez insists true liberation theology was always perfectly in line with the church's social teaching about the poor that Francis widely embraces.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/founde...iled-at-vatican

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JP2 wird seine Rotation in der Kiste wohl weiter beschleunigen.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #964

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #963

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #962

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Founder of Liberation Theology Hailed at Vatican
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, has received a hero's welcome at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis.

The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vatican's orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis' top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger spent much of his tenure at Mueller's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith battling liberation theology, arguing that it misinterpreted Jesus' preference for the poor into a Marxist call for armed rebellion.

Guttierez insists true liberation theology was always perfectly in line with the church's social teaching about the poor that Francis widely embraces.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/founde...iled-at-vatican

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JP2 wird seine Rotation in der Kiste wohl weiter beschleunigen.

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Yep. Die Dinge sind in Bewegung.
Ob wohl moeglicherweise Maga es demnaechst dann wohl so darstellen wird, als sei das immer schon der Plan oder gar so gewesen und auch von Ratzuinger so gewollt gewesen -und nur von uns Dummen nicht recht erkannt worden. Davon gehe ich mal aus.

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #965

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #964

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #963

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #962

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Founder of Liberation Theology Hailed at Vatican
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, has received a hero's welcome at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis.

The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vatican's orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis' top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger spent much of his tenure at Mueller's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith battling liberation theology, arguing that it misinterpreted Jesus' preference for the poor into a Marxist call for armed rebellion.

Guttierez insists true liberation theology was always perfectly in line with the church's social teaching about the poor that Francis widely embraces.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/founde...iled-at-vatican

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JP2 wird seine Rotation in der Kiste wohl weiter beschleunigen.

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Yep. Die Dinge sind in Bewegung.
Ob wohl moeglicherweise Maga es demnaechst dann wohl so darstellen wird, als sei das immer schon der Plan oder gar so gewesen und auch von Ratzuinger so gewollt gewesen -und nur von uns Dummen nicht recht erkannt worden. Davon gehe ich mal aus.

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Ich meine, Maga hat selbst mal thematisiert, dass JP2 eher Kalter Krieger und weniger Befreiungstheologe war. Mit "Kommunisten" hatte er es nicht so.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #966

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Katholiken widersprechen Paepsten hoechstens wenn diese schon mehrere hundert Jahre tot sind. Das ist bei JP2 ja nicht der Fall.
Und im uebrigen, Benedikt 16/Ratzinger war auch dagegen -und der lebt nicht nur noch, Maga lag/liegt auch stets voll und ganz auf seiner Linie. Da wird also wieder mal ein Spagat faellig.
Ein beeindruckender.;-)

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Catholic University leaders reject criticism of Koch grant
Washington D.C., Feb 23, 2014 / 04:46 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Catholic University of America’s president and business school dean say criticism of a $1 million grant from the Koch Foundation is unfounded and treats debatable positions as official Church teaching.

“We think the groups complaining about the Koch Foundation gift are suggesting a litmus test that neither we nor they would want to apply to other cases,” university president John Garvey and Dean Andrew Abela of the university’s School of Business and Economics said in a Feb. 20 Wall Street Journal essay.
“We welcome constructive criticism, but we believe it would be a mistake to stifle debate by pretending that genuinely controversial positions are official church teaching.”

In January 2013, The Catholic University of America created a separate business school for business, finance and economics-related courses drawn from its School of Arts and Sciences. The new business school later received a $1 million grant from the Charles Koch Foundation.
The grant has drawn objections from Faith in Public Life, a Democratic-leaning communications strategy organization. The group’s affiliate Faithful America organized a petition drive asking the university to reject the grant. The pro-labor union group Catholic Scholars for Worker Justice was also critical.
The Faithful America petition said that brothers Charles and David Koch’s political efforts are “clearly out of step with Catholic social teaching,” claiming that they are “the biggest funders” of the Tea Party movement, and “anti-government think tanks” that are “waging war on anti-poverty programs.”

The petition claims that the Charles Koch used his influence to veto professor hires at another university.
The online petition had 33,000 signatures as of Feb. 21, an increase from 28,000 in mid-December.

However, Garvey and Abela suggested that the criticism stems not from any improper activity being funded by the Koch Foundation, but because the critics believe the Koch brothers “hold some views that we should reject.”
“This objection is a rather strong form of guilt by association,” the university leaders said.

They went on to argue that it would “surely” not be wrong to accept a malaria vaccine research grant from the Gates Foundation, which supports artificial contraception, nor would it be wrong to accept a grant from a foundation simply because one of its founders personally donated to abortion provider Planned Parenthood.

Garvey and Abela also considered that objections might derive from concerns that the business school would entertain or justify “ideas at odds with Catholic social teaching.” They noted the Catholic Scholars for Worker Justice’s objection that the grant may give the impression that Catholic Church does not support public sector unions, given the Koch brothers’ support for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who limited bargaining rights for some such unions.
“The grant we received is not concerned with public unions. Even if it were, we wouldn't turn it away as a project unfit for study at a Catholic university,” Garvey and Abela said.

They noted that the Catholic Church “has long supported unions” in its social teaching, including Pope Leo XIII’s 1891 encyclical “Rerum Novarum,” which taught that workers have the right to organize and bargain collectively. At the same time, this encyclical said this subject depends on “practice and experience” and on “the nature and aim of the work to be done,” among other circumstances.
Garvey and Abela said that Leo XIII and his successors never advanced an official Church position on government worker unions, which “should be as open to debate at the Catholic University of America as at Columbia, Stanford or any other serious university.”

They also pointed out that 25 Catholic universities are among the 270 U.S. universities to have received Koch Foundation grants. They suggested that the controversy over this particular grant is related to The Catholic University of America’s status as the national university of the Catholic Church.
Garvey and Abela said the university is “grateful” for the grant and is keeping it because “it would be an unhealthy precedent for a university to refuse support for valuable research because the money, somewhere back up the line, once belonged to a donor whose views on other subjects were unpopular within the academic community.”

The university had previously defended the grant in a Dec. 16 statement which said the negative attention “has all been externally driven by organizations with a political agenda.”
The grant critic Faith in Public Life has been involved in several Catholic-related media campaigns. A leaked June 2012 email from the organization revealed it had been circulating talking points and adversarial questions for the media to ask Catholic bishops in the controversy over federal mandates of health coverage for sterilization and contraception, including some drugs that can cause abortions.
The email urged the media to reject as a “fiction” the Catholic Church’s position that the mandate poses a serious threat to religious liberty.

The organization Faithful America has run several petition campaigns critical of Catholic Church actions, such as the firing of a Catholic school teacher who contracted a same-sex “marriage.” A July 2013 petition from the group called on Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York to resign, alleging that he concealed Church funds from abuse lawsuit settlements.
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/c...-of-koch-grant/

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Geschiedene, Pille: Papst-Berater drängt auf Reform
Ex-Kurienkardinal Kasper hat bei der jüngsten Vollversammlung der Purpurträger ein bahnbrechendes Referat gehalten - auf ausdrücklichen Wunsch des Papstes: "Sakramente sind keine Belohnung für eine Elite."

"Die Sakramente sind keine Belohnung für Wohlverhalten und für eine Elite, welche die ausschließt, die der Sakramente am meisten bedürfen." Und: "Wenn ein geschiedener Wiederverheirateter bereut, dass er in erster Ehe versagt hat, wenn er sich nach Kräften mühte, die zweite zivile Ehe aus dem Glauben zu leben, können wir ihm dann das Sakrament der Buße und die Kommunion verweigern?"
Mit diesen Worten lässt der frühe deutsche Kurienkardinal Walter Kasper aufhorchen. Er fordert nicht weniger als ein Umdenken der katholischen Kirche in der Ehe- und Sexualmoral. Und: Er erhebt diese Forderung direkt im Vatikan, vor dem Papst, der ihn persönlich um das Referat gebeten hat, vor den versammelten Kardinälen der Weltkirche.

Das bloße Pochen auf Regeln überzeuge keinen Menschen, sie auch einzuhalten, zitiert die Wochenzeitung "Die Zeit" aus der bisher geheimen Rede. Kasper betont, die Kirche verstehe die Gebote nicht als Last und Einschränkung der Freiheit, sondern als Wegweisung zu einem erfüllten Leben.

Der frühere "Ökumeneminister" des Vatikans (2001-10) strebt einen Weg der Kirche zwischen Rigorismus und laxer Einstellung an: Er plädierte dafür, dass die Kirche auf die heutige Realität der katholischen Laien eingeht und Sünden vergibt. "Wir glauben ja auch an die Vergebung der Sünden. An die Möglichkeit, neu anzufangen." Kasper forderte, die Kirche müsse ihre Furcht vor Veränderung überwinden: "Angst hat nichts Christliches."

Kardinal Schönborn lobt Kasper
Genau dies lobte auch Kardinal Christoph Schönborn in der jüngsten Ausgabe der Wiener Kirchenzeitung "Der Sonntag": Kasper habe in seinem "hervorragenden" und "blendend formulierten" Referat bewusst "keine fertigen Lösungen angeboten". Das entpreche auch den Planungen für die beiden Bischofssynoden zum Thema: Die erste im kommenden Oktober solle zunächst einmal "sondieren, wo die Familien der Schuh drückt". Erst bei der Synode 2015 sollen dann - so Schönborn - "konkrete seelsorgliche Orientierungen" gefunden werden.
http://diepresse.com/home/panorama/relig...=/home/index.do

Vatikan: Machtkampf um Geschiedene
Der Münchner Erzbischof Reinhard Marx fordert, die Diskussion über den Empfang der Sakramente für Wiederverheiratete nicht zu beenden.

"Der Präfekt der Glaubenskongregation kann die Diskussion nicht beenden." Und: "Wir werden erleben, dass das Thema in der ganzen Breite diskutiert wird." Noch nie ist von einem deutschen Kardinal so offen dem Chef der Glaubenskongregation im Vatikan widersprochen worden.
Ausgangspunkt der Konfrontation: Vor zwei Wochen hat Präfekt Erzbischof Gerhard Müller in der Vatikanzeitung „L´Osservatore Romano" Hoffnungen zu zerstreuen versucht, Franziskus könnte Geschiedene, die staatlich nach einer Scheidung wieder geheiratet haben, zum Empfang der Sakramente (Kommunion, Krankensalbung, Beichte) zulassen. Eine derartige Zulasung zu den Sakramenten sei "aus ihrer inneren Natur heraus nicht möglich", erklärte der langjährige Vertraute des emeriterten Papstes Benedikt XVI.

Am Donnerstag hat der Münchner Erzbischof Reinhard Marx nun einen deutlichen Kontrapunkt gesetzt. Dies ist auch deshalb besonders bemerkenswert, weil Marx im Kardinalsrat sitzt - also jenem neu geschaffenen Gremium von acht Purpurträgern aus allen Erdteilen, das Franzsikus bei der Reform der katholischen Kirche zur Seite steht. Der Vatikan hat - gleichfalls erstmalig in der Kirchengeschichte - einen Fragebogen an die Bischofskonferenzen veröffentlicht, der zur Vorbereitung eines Sondertreffens der Bischöfe im Herbst nächsten Jahres dienen soll. Thema: Familie. Zuvor hatte Franziskus Barmherzigkeit für Geschiedene nach einer weiteren Ehe gefordert.
http://diepresse.com/home/panorama/relig...?from=simarchiv

Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #964

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #963

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #962

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Founder of Liberation Theology Hailed at Vatican
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, has received a hero's welcome at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis.

The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vatican's orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis' top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger spent much of his tenure at Mueller's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith battling liberation theology, arguing that it misinterpreted Jesus' preference for the poor into a Marxist call for armed rebellion.

Guttierez insists true liberation theology was always perfectly in line with the church's social teaching about the poor that Francis widely embraces.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/founde...iled-at-vatican

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JP2 wird seine Rotation in der Kiste wohl weiter beschleunigen.

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Yep. Die Dinge sind in Bewegung.
Ob wohl moeglicherweise Maga es demnaechst dann wohl so darstellen wird, als sei das immer schon der Plan oder gar so gewesen und auch von Ratzuinger so gewollt gewesen -und nur von uns Dummen nicht recht erkannt worden. Davon gehe ich mal aus.

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Zitat von Maga-neu im Beitrag #973

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #964

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Zitat von Leto_II. im Beitrag #963

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #962

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Founder of Liberation Theology Hailed at Vatican
The founder of liberation theology, the Latin American-inspired Catholic theology advocating for the poor, has received a hero's welcome at the Vatican as the once-criticized movement continues its rehabilitation under Pope Francis.

The Rev. Gustavo Gutierrez was the surprise speaker Tuesday at a book launch featuring the head of the Vatican's orthodoxy office, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller; one of Francis' top advisers, Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga; and the Vatican spokesman.

The former Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger spent much of his tenure at Mueller's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith battling liberation theology, arguing that it misinterpreted Jesus' preference for the poor into a Marxist call for armed rebellion.

Guttierez insists true liberation theology was always perfectly in line with the church's social teaching about the poor that Francis widely embraces.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/founde...iled-at-vatican

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JP2 wird seine Rotation in der Kiste wohl weiter beschleunigen.

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Yep. Die Dinge sind in Bewegung.
Ob wohl moeglicherweise Maga es demnaechst dann wohl so darstellen wird, als sei das immer schon der Plan oder gar so gewesen und auch von Ratzuinger so gewollt gewesen -und nur von uns Dummen nicht recht erkannt worden. Davon gehe ich mal aus.

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Tja, Fehler Nummer Eins. Nein, in der Bewertung der Befreiungstheologie unterscheiden sich Papa Francesco und Papa Benedetto wohl. (Obwohl Kardinal Bergoglio alles andere als ein Freund der Befreiungstheologie war, und Papst Benedikt den Guttierrez-Schüler Müller zum Chef der Glaubenskongregation gemacht hat.)

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #966

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Katholiken widersprechen Paepsten hoechstens wenn diese schon mehrere hundert Jahre tot sind.

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Zitat von Willie im Beitrag #966

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Und im uebrigen, Benedikt 16/Ratzinger war auch dagegen -und der lebt nicht nur noch, Maga lag/liegt auch stets voll und ganz auf seiner Linie. Da wird also wieder mal ein Spagat faellig.
Ein beeindruckender.;-)[/blau]

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